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there is / there are after place adverbials #1 (permalink) Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:51 am   there is / there are after place adverbials
 

Hi,

I've got a question concerning the phrase "there is/there are":
When can the introductory subject "there" be left out in a sentence beginning with a place adverbial, such as in "On the island (there) are no roads."?
Would it be more natural to use "there" or to leave it out, i.e. invert subject and verb? Or is there no difference?

Thanks for your help! :)
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there is / there are after place adverbials #2 (permalink) Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:11 am   there is / there are after place adverbials
 

Sorry Gromit, you can't leave "there"out in your sentence.

Even inverted the sentence would read;
"There are no roads on the island."
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there is / there are after place adverbials #3 (permalink) Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:19 am   there is / there are after place adverbials
 

Thanks for your quick reply. By "inverted" I meant the changed order of the verb and the subject in a sentence where the place adverbial is placed at the beginning: On the island are no roads. For me it would sound more natural to use "there" in this sentence but often I come across sentences where "there" has been left out after place adverbials. Therefore I was wondering if there is a general rule when to leave out "there" or whether it is simply incorrect to omit it.
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there is / there are after place adverbials #4 (permalink) Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:48 am   there is / there are after place adverbials
 

Perhaps Alan will pop-in to clear this up.

My grammatical skills are only poor, at best.

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there is / there are after place adverbials #5 (permalink) Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:05 pm   there is / there are after place adverbials
 

SVA:No roads are on the island
AVS:On the island are no roads.
SVC: The sound of the bell grew faint.
CVS: Faint grew the sound of the bell.

No roads are on the island
=There are no roads on the island
=There are on the island no roads.
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