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Dear Gray,
I think yes. I don't know who is I.Berlin. But reading the context of text I can say that it's ok. Writer is so sure about the good conversation qualities (or qualities of good conversation) of book that, he/she says that by for example, by the eyar 2010 many will have read it.
Example for "will have read" : You are reading a book. It's 13:00 PM. And you have just 2 pages left. You have a friend who wants borrow your book, and asks you to lend it. and you say: I have just 2 pages left, by 15:00 PM I will have read (finish the reading) it and then I can give it to you!!!
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~Phoebe Kiprida
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| #3 (permalink) Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:53 am Many "will have read" (?) his... |
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"Many will have read his short monograph "
I think this should be rewritten: "Many might have read his short monograph " "May" is also be acceptable but not "will have". It is doubtful.
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| #4 (permalink) Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:21 am Many "will have read" (?) his... |
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| Gray wrote: |
"Isaiah Berlin’s best work is contained in the form of essays and lectures on the history of ideas. Many will have read his short monograph The Hedgehog and the Fox (1953), a book which has some of the qualities of good conversation...."
Are these usage grammatically correct? --
will have read
the qualities of good conversation |
Yes, both uses are correct and grammatical.
'Will have read' is a usage of the future perfect tense to indicate something that has already happened before something else in the future.
I take it that this is an excerpt from something you've been reading, Gray?
In this case, the author is saying that many people will already have read Berlin's book (and thus be familiar with it) before they read the author's comments on Berlin's book.
As for 'the qualities of good conversation', the author is stating (in his opinion) that the monograph shares some (but not all) of the same qualities as good conversation contains. It's up to you, the reader, to infer what some of those qualities might be. Unless, of course, the author goes on to cite some of those qualities later on.
Primarily, what the author is saying is that the book is insightful and engaging to read.
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| #5 (permalink) Mon Jul 20, 2009 14:43 pm Many "will have read" (?) his... |
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My bad, I wanted to ask whether it is correct in that particular context.
Yes, as pointed out by Skrej, 'might have read' is what author's intention must be.
In the second query, 'the qualities of good conversation', I meant -- do we need any article here like --
the qualities of a good conversation
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| #6 (permalink) Mon Jul 20, 2009 15:13 pm Many "will have read" (?) his... |
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| The word "conversation" is both count and uncount noun. So when you feel that to refer to a conversation you had (e.g.: a telephonic conversation with your friend or boss) you use an article. But when you talk about it in a very general manner like here there is no need for an article. '...the qualities of good conversation' is the best expression. best of luck, nanucbe |
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| #7 (permalink) Mon Jul 20, 2009 15:26 pm Many "will have read" (?) his... |
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| "'Will have read' is a usage of the future perfect tense to indicate something that has already happened before something else in the future." |
"Will have read" This future perfect is used when a work is going on now and some amount of that is expected to be completed by a future date. Will always has a lingering uncertainity attached to it. But here I feel that the
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speaker is refering to people who have completed reading this before the time of his speech or writing. So 'might'; 'may' is also to a great extent acceptable. best of luck, nanucbe |
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