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#2 (permalink) Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:58 am Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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You are right; that is the formal collocation. Nevertheless, 'suicide' does appear as a verb. You can see it in THIS DICTIONARY. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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Mister Micawber Language Coach
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#3 (permalink) Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:40 am Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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So are you saying that if a student wrote "Cato suicided" in an essay, you would find that an acceptable usage?
Can you give me some examples of how to use this word correctly? |
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Raygo New Member
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#4 (permalink) Wed Aug 05, 2009 13:51 pm Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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There is no indication that the verb 'to suicide' is substandard in any way, so yes: it is acceptable in an essay.
Foxconn Compensates Family of Worker Who Suicided Over Missing iPhone. Top Freddie Mac Official Suicided After $50 Billion Traced From US To Israel _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#5 (permalink) Wed Aug 05, 2009 14:14 pm Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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Thanks for your help. (I'm actually rather surprised in an unhappy way to find that usage acceptable, it seems so ugly and unnatural, and most people seem to feel that 'to commit' must collocate with 'suicide'. See link below.)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090720133249AADNNHj |
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#6 (permalink) Wed Aug 05, 2009 14:38 pm Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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1-- Personally, I do not care for it much either. 2-- One cannot hold back language with any kind of elitist attitude 3-- That site does not seem particularly professional. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#7 (permalink) Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:25 am Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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| Ok, point taken, thanks for your help. |
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Raygo New Member
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#8 (permalink) Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:32 pm Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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What about in this sentence?
"Committing suicide is difficult because it takes much courage to do it. "
>> Will it be OK to remove 'committing' and leave 'suicide' alone as the subject? Thanks! |
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#9 (permalink) Wed Apr 06, 2011 13:25 pm Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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Yes, that would work casually, but you would be better then to change 'do' to 'commit'. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#10 (permalink) Wed Apr 06, 2011 13:49 pm Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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| Ah, OK. Thanks, but could you tell me why? I am writing a paragraph and I am going to use 'commit' in my next sentence. As much as possible, I don't want to repeat the word 'commit'. What are the other words that I can use? Thanks again. |
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#11 (permalink) Wed Apr 06, 2011 13:57 pm Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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That is the collocation: 'to commit suicide'. If you don't wish to use 'commit' so often, then don't use 'suicide' so often. It is just like 'play baseball' - anything else ('do baseball', 'practice baseball') is not natural English. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#12 (permalink) Wed Apr 06, 2011 14:12 pm Collocate the noun "suicide" with the verb "to commit" |
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| Thanks! |
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