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 #2 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:43 am Aion, the complete test on PC |
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Do you still waiting the starting zones invaded by clones of Legolas or characters from Final Fantasy and a chat room filled with players disliking World of Warcraft which they spent five years on? No doubt it is well before the launch of yet another MMORPG. Again, the giant NCsoft that it sticks with the highly anticipated Aion, who finally decides to land in our green lands nearly a year after its release in Korea.
Out there almost a year in his native Korea, Aion will start paying a large class of our land by providing a finishing and content you would like (really) see more often in the middle of the MMORPG. Beautiful, smooth and devoid of any annoying bug, the baby giant NCsoft will undoubtedly reference to the future of this side, although we can still criticize his conservative exacerbated the slow growth and Meanwhile ultimately very generic. The need to suffer through terribly linear first 25 levels of the game before finally enter the "real" content is also very annoying, especially if one wishes to try several classes before deciding. Players a little tired by the classic MMORPG or allergic design "made in Asia" will also be a little repulsed by the lack of innovation in Aion, which is ultimately a game that all players "experienced" of MMOs have already more or less played. Almost perfect in its execution, but routine in its presentation, Aion will launch absolutely no revolution, but perhaps require - at least we hope - a new quality standard in respect of a successful launch in the middle of the massively multiplayer. |
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| #3 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:47 am Aion, the complete test on PC |
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| What the hell is this? Stop spamming my posts or I'll have to report you to the group !!!! |
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| #4 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:59 am Use of 'been' |
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| Yes, "been" is used correctly here. I'd add a comma after "I wouldn't have". Don't mind the spammer; this forum is currently plagued by his kind. Moderators are working on it. |
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| #5 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:02 am Use of 'been' |
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Yes, it is grammatically correct. This is known as inversion.
These two sentences are identical:
Had he understood the problem, he wouldn't have committed those mistakes.
If he had understood the problem, he wouldn't have committed those mistakes.
Your sentence is the first type...But I would not add a comma as Cerberus suggested. |
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| #6 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 13:46 pm Use of 'been' |
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| Hedonist wrote: |
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Your sentence is the first type...But I would not add a comma as Cerberus suggested. |
Why not? The reason I suggested adding a comma is that the reader may otherwise be tricked into reading "things that I wouldn't have had"; then, realizing his mistake, he'd have to reread the entire sentence: is there anything wrong with separating conditional clause from main clause by comma? |
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| #7 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 14:01 pm Use of 'been' |
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| Thanks for the help. |
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| #9 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 14:25 pm Use of 'been' |
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| Oh it's about someone's facebook profile. If it wasn't for that person's profile, I wouldn't have discovered the thing that I did. LOL |
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| #10 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 19:30 pm Use of 'been' |
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| Cerberus™ wrote: |
| Hedonist wrote: |
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Your sentence is the first type...But I would not add a comma as Cerberus suggested. |
Why not? The reason I suggested adding a comma is that the reader may otherwise be tricked into reading "things that I wouldn't have had"; then, realizing his mistake, he'd have to reread the entire sentence: is there anything wrong with separating conditional clause from main clause by comma? |
The rule of thumb is that if the conditional clause comes first, a comma is needed; and if the conditional clause comes second, there is no need for a comma.
Example:
Conditional Clause First:
If John studies hard, he will manage to pass the exam.
Conditional Clause Second:
John will manage to pass the exam if he studies hard.
In the second example, the comma is omitted. And it would be a mistake to put one...
However, I think the example of Sonubajwa2003 is a bit different, because there is a structural ambiguity when the comma is omitted. What do you think? |
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| #11 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 22:22 pm Use of 'been' |
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| Hedonist wrote: |
The rule of thumb is that if the conditional clause comes first, a comma is needed; and if the conditional clause comes second, there is no need for a comma.
Example:
Conditional Clause First:
If John studies hard, he will manage to pass the exam.
Conditional Clause Second:
John will manage to pass the exam if he studies hard.
In the second example, the comma is omitted. And it would be a mistake to put one... |
Perhaps there are different schools on this subject: I have been taught that a writer has considerable freedom whether or not to separate adverbial constituents by commas; that rhetorical reasons should govern his choice, to be made at his discretion. But if your rule is indeed a rule of thumb for rhetorical discretion, we have no disagreement here.
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| However, I think the example of Sonubajwa2003 is a bit different, because there is a structural ambiguity when the comma is omitted. What do you think? |
If you agree to what I wrote above, I say this is a case where the rule of thumb should be overruled by the stronger rule that serious ambiguity, leading readers on to a false scent, must be avoided. If you'd rather not have your rule overruled here, perhaps the sentence should be recast entirely, such as by putting the conditional clause at the beginning. |
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| #12 (permalink) Sun Oct 04, 2009 22:36 pm Use of 'been' |
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| Infin1ty wrote: |
... I don't know what "had it not been for his profile" means.  Could you please explain it to me? Thanks. |
As Hedonist explained, the clause "had it not been for his profile" is actually a conditional clause, with word order inverted and "if" omitted. It is equivalent to "if it had not been for his profile", which means "if his profile had not been there", "if his profile had not been involved". I guess this usage of "it is for" is idiomatic; and I think it is found only in conditional clauses. The sentence "if it weren't for my aunt, I'd never have gone to university" could be used if my aunt had contributed the money that allowed me to go to Harvard. |
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| difference between come and go | It is important for you to vs It is important to |
But still, I don't know what "had it not been for his profile" means. 