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Chat room #1 (permalink) Sat Oct 17, 2009 15:14 pm   Chat room
 

Dear Mr Torsten,
It seem that we don't have any chat room (all learners can talk directly together), do we? because i want to improve my speaking skill and grammar. Why don't you creat it? :) i think it'll be very helpful for us. Besides, all of us can make friend together easier :)
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Chat room #2 (permalink) Sat Oct 17, 2009 16:17 pm   Chat room
 

I don't like to chat in English. It will be too many typing mistakes and then noone would understand it.
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Chat room #3 (permalink) Sat Oct 17, 2009 17:32 pm   Chat room
 

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Please listen to my recording and respond with a voice message too. Many thanks.
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Chat room #4 (permalink) Sun Oct 18, 2009 15:07 pm   Chat room
 

hihi..hi Michal,
I have just listened your voice record and i also think so :)
And maybe Maria is right when to said that we'll make many mistakes if we chat together. But i think if someone have mistakes when chatting, others can help them to right and make good those shortcomings. We chat to learn, don't we? ;)
Anyway, nice to meet you all!
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Chat room #5 (permalink) Sun Oct 18, 2009 15:42 pm   Chat room
 

The biggest objection to chat rooms would be an invasion of morons.

You know the type I mean.

Word goes out on the grapevine that there is a new chatroom, AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE, and there you have the start of the destruction of the site.

It's not my place to veto such an admirable idea, but I honestly think it is a NO-NO guys and gals.

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Chat room #6 (permalink) Sun Oct 18, 2009 16:41 pm   Chat room
 

I have a different opinion about this issue: I prefer chatroom than forum because in chatroom you talk in real time. You are obligated to think and write as quick as possible and it gives you stimulations to face a real conversation in English. It doesn't happen here in forum. If you make a mistake during the conversation you'll perceive it.
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Chat room #7 (permalink) Sun Oct 18, 2009 20:18 pm   Chat room
 

Hi Tomasito,

For learners of English real time chatrooms are a big challenge for one single reason: Once you have written something you usually don't and correct it. This reinforces bad typing habits and poor grammar. Of course we have 'real conversations in English' here on the forum. I think the word you have in mind is 'real-time conversations'.

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Chat room #8 (permalink) Sun Oct 18, 2009 23:41 pm   Chat room
 

I agree with Torsten, but disagree with Kitos.

The real- time conversation makes us think ! You have to talk, you have to think of a word, you have to make a proper grammar construction. If you just write here on the forum, you can correct your mistakes and check it (during the real-time discussion if we hear that someone makes a mistake, we can correct him/her as well).

Kitos, the webmasters can make another webpage (connected with the ET.net forum) that will be separated and will not affect our forum (if it's possible. anyway, is this website donated somehow??) . Don't worry, Kitos! :)

Some time ago (when skype cast existed) I proposed to meet at chatrooms there (skypecasts) but now they're not avaivable :(

The same thing is with the voice recorder. I had to record the message 3 times because I made few mistakes :P I don't wanna wake up my roommate now- that's why you have to read this text :D
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Chat room #9 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:50 am   Chat room
 

What do we call a real time conversation? This term seems to be cause of our problem. I think that a real time conversation is when two or more people talk together without waiting for a long time to get the feedback. It is something like: I make you a question and you have to answer immediatly. This is what I call a real time conversation. I agree with all of you who say that in chatroom we don't have time to correct what we write and consequently it creates a bad spelling. This is one disadvantages of chatroom. However a real conversation in a chatroom can expand our vocabulary, and we start to use those words which we have never used before.
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Chat room #10 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:02 am   Chat room
 

Hi Michal (?)
Yes, what you said is what i thought. This's called reflection. So, do you know which web page for chat in public? and if there's still any chatroom in skype? I tried to find some web page like that but it's not still satisfy me :( If you know, can u tell me? tks in advance!
P/s: at first, when i read your reply, i also thought why u didn't record your voice and i knew why now... :)
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Chat room #11 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:17 am   Chat room
 

Hi Tomasito,
Tks for your clearly explanation ( i confused about this phrase a bit). And as i said, chatting can help us have a reflection ability. Do you all agree with me that if we meet a foreigner and have to talk with them, we must say and answer immediatly without thinking or check what we said again? That is what chatroom can makes for us. :)
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Chat room #12 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:40 am   Chat room
 

Please activate Javascript in your browser to listen to this audio recording

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Please listen to my recording and respond with a voice message too. Many thanks.

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Chat room #13 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:53 am   Chat room
 

That was not in mp3 format. I can't download the file... :-(
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Chat room #14 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:49 am   Chat room
 

That's a good news Tosten. I think adding a chat system this site will be complete and it also bring more people into english-test.net.
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Chat room #15 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:39 pm   Chat room
 

Torsten wrote:
Please listen to my recording and respond with a voice message too. Many thanks.

Dear Mr Torsten,
I'm so happy to hear about your recording. And i hope that we all have a chatroom as soon as posible. I'm sure that our web page will attract member as well as guest more and more
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