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Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here? #1 (permalink) Thu Nov 19, 2009 14:14 pm   Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here?
 

Hello!
I've got several confusing questions.
1) I've always adhered to the rule saying that one should use 'any' in questions and negative sentences and 'some' in affirmative ones. However, when it comes to using "someone/anyone", I often get confused. Let's take the simplest example:
Is there anyone in that room? (correct?) OR Is anybody here?
Is there someone outside peeping into the window? (correct?)
2) The next question of mine is also very simple, however I would rather someone clear up my confusion.
How should one ask if he doesn't know what the thing/object is? (excuse my odd wording :) ) "What is this/that?" And how should the other person reply? E.g. "This/that is a book. OR It's a book".
3) What is the difference between "named" and "called"? For instance, "there is one student called Amy Smith....OR there is one student named Amy Smith"?
Thanking in advance!
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Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here? #2 (permalink) Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:45 pm   Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here?
 

1. You are right that "any-" is more common in questions, but "some-" is possible as well. You would use "any-" when you expect a negative answer (like "no", "nobody"), "some-" when your question is neutral. The classical example is when you are visiting an Englishman, and he asks whether you want more tea: "would you like some more tea?" means just what it says; "would you like any more tea?" means he expects you to say no, because he really wants to kick you out but is too polite to say it. This is of course exaggerated, but there is some truth in the general distinction.
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Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here? #3 (permalink) Fri Nov 20, 2009 15:43 pm   Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here?
 

Thnx a lot Cerberus :) However, the rest of my questions have not been answered yet :(
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Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here? #4 (permalink) Fri Nov 20, 2009 23:33 pm   Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here?
 

Quote:
How should one ask if he doesn't know what the thing/object is?
"What is this/that?"
And how should the other person reply?
"This/that is a book." OR "It's a book".

I believe that using "this"/"that" adds some sense of "distance" from the speaker (in space, speech time or abstraction) to the mentioned "thing". The most neutral reference to a thing would be "it", but you see, it's up to the speaker either to be neutral or to imply distance.
"What is it?" / "What is this (=it+near)?" / "What is that (=it+far)?"
"What are they?" / "What are these (=they+near)?" / "What are those (=they+far)?"
Let's also reinforce that using "this/that" must concern the distance from the speaker (be the speaker the one who questions or the one who answers); such distances are not necessarily the same.
"What is that on your shoulder?" --"Oh, this is my parrot" (far from one, close to the other)
"What is that in the sky?" --"Ah, that's Mars." (far from both)

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What is the difference between "named" and "called"?

Regarding names, my best guess is that "named" refers more to the occasion when the official name was given (in a birth registration, a baptism), whereas "called" refers to how people usually address the person.
He was named "Bruce Wayne" by his parents, and he's effectively called "Bruce Wayne" in the daytime. At night, though, he's called "Batman".

Bat-cheers,
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Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here? #5 (permalink) Sat Nov 21, 2009 17:33 pm   Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here?
 

Planta, much obliged for such an explicit explanation. :)
Quote:
The most neutral reference to a thing would be "it", but you see, it's up to the speaker either to be neutral or to imply distance.
"What is it?" / "What is this (=it+near)?" / "What is that (=it+far)?"

Does it mean that the one who answers can begin replying with 'it's a..." disregarding 'this/that' in the question? Or should it be 'this/that' in reply to the question 'What's this/that?'
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Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here? #6 (permalink) Sat Nov 21, 2009 23:16 pm   Is there anyone in that room? OR Is anybody here?
 

Hello Li Chyan,

I am glad I could help! =o)
Let's now address this one remaining matter...

Quote:
Does it mean that the one who answers can begin replying with 'it's a..." disregarding 'this/that' in the question?

Yes, if the inquirer asks "What is this/that?", the replier is totally free to say "It is a balloon".

(Wh-what are these letters my hands are typing?
Oh.. They form a farewell word: ) Cheers!
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