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#2 (permalink) Mon Nov 23, 2009 21:45 pm "to" or "in order to" |
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Hello..
I think both of them have the same meaning and use.
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#3 (permalink) Mon Nov 23, 2009 21:55 pm "to" or "in order to" |
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Thanks. I think so. But just... I want to be absolutely certain. _________________ Global Marketing |
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#4 (permalink) Mon Nov 23, 2009 22:36 pm "to" or "in order to" |
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I'm sure there is a subtle point. Research before passing a comment If you are not sure. Thanks in advance. _________________ Global Marketing |
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#5 (permalink) Mon Nov 23, 2009 22:56 pm "to" or "in order to" |
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OK, I just wanted to suggest and say what I know and to learn more.
I'll search now. |
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#6 (permalink) Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:37 am "to" or "in order to" |
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| Could you provide more context? Both "to" and "in order to" can be appropriate. |
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#7 (permalink) Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:07 am "to" or "in order to" |
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Thanks Everafter. http://www.grammar-quizzes.com/infinitive3d.html Everafter wrote this link in another page. Yes, it's a part of my answer my answer. so since"in order to" is wordy, I'll use in writing and I'll use "to" in speaking because it's concise. It seems reasonable to assume that they are precisely identical. Am I right?
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#8 (permalink) Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:31 am "to" or "in order to" |
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Hi Richard,
Both 'to' and 'in order to' indicate purpose. I would say 'in order to' emphasises the purpose. In the children's nursery rhyme the first two lines are: Jack and Jill went up the hill/To fetch a pail of water. There the purpose is clear and simple. I could say: Jack and Jill went up the hill in order to fetch some water for their mother so that she could do the washing. Here the purpose is highlighted.
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#10 (permalink) Tue Nov 24, 2009 13:26 pm "to" or "in order to" |
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| Perhaps you could say that "in order to" is used if "to" by itself does not make it entirely clear that the infinitive is to express a purpose. |
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