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involved IN and WITH #1 (permalink) Wed Dec 09, 2009 18:17 pm   involved IN and WITH
 

What is the difference b/w "involved IN" and "involved WITH"?
IN and WITH are excahangeble all the time?
If not, please explain. Thanks!

Ex: How did you become involved WITH this project?
Ex: Are you involved IN any type of sport?
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involved IN and WITH #2 (permalink) Wed Dec 09, 2009 19:09 pm   involved IN and WITH
 

From the OED:

Involve (verb)


4. b. pass. (or as ppl. a.) More generally, to be occupied, engrossed, or embroiled in; to be concerned or associated with.

1843 Proc. Berwickshire Naturalists' Club II. 66 Many were deeply involved in smuggling, and+carried on with little secrecy or restraint their contraband commerce. 1907 F. W. Lanchester Aerodynamics 393 Aerodonetics,+the science specifically involved in problems connected with the stability or equilibrium of an aerodone or aerodrome. 1940 Chicago Tribune 28 Jan. 1/8 A typical goon murder was the recent killing in Chicago of+a garageman involved in a union dispute. 1944 S. Bellow Dangling Man 25, I was involved with them; because, whether I liked it or not, they were my generation, my society, my world. 1969 Observer 16 Feb. 7/5 Those involved in the ornithological expedition have had to receive military clearance. 1983 B. Emecheta Rape of Shavi (1985) xx. 167 Mendoza was one of those people one liked to know but not really be involved with. 1991 C. Fremlin Dangerous Thoughts x. 79 To get involved in another web of lying was too much; my whole soul shrank from it in exhaustion.

c. Chiefly in pass. (or as ppl. a.). To commit (oneself) emotionally; spec. to have a sexual relationship with.

1936 R. Lehmann Weather in Streets iii. 293, I feel certain his beastly parents interfered—thought he was getting too involved. 1955 O. Manning Doves of Venus i. ii. 7 He had involved himself with Ellie from habit. 1970 I. Murdoch Fairly Honourable Defeat ii. ix. 285 She did not really think that Rupert and Morgan were involved with each other. 1984 J. Gathorne-Hardy Doctors (1987) xxxi. 296, I don't think you can help people unless you're prepared to be involved. 1990 R. Blount First Hubby 133, I was not horny or crazy enough to get involved with a Klanswoman even if I weren't already in love+with a Maid of Orleans whose cause I believed in.

(The prepositions in italics signify that "involved" is used with that specific preposition in the sense mentioned.)
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involved IN and WITH #3 (permalink) Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:06 am   involved IN and WITH
 

Wow Cerberus, you are as bad as me! You would have to have a good level of English to understand that, it must score pretty high on the Fleisch! <smile>

To be "involved in" implies a strong feeling that a person actively takes part in something.

To be "involved with" implies a strong feeling that a person has a connection with something.

But, context could change the feelings sometimes!

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involved IN and WITH #4 (permalink) Thu Dec 10, 2009 16:01 pm   involved IN and WITH
 

Thank you all.
In that case, I think the first example could be read;
Ex: How did you become involved IN this project?

Basically, which one, WITH or IN, you use depends on
how the speaker sees it or how he/she feels about it,
that's what you are saying, right?
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involved IN and WITH #5 (permalink) Thu Dec 10, 2009 16:02 pm   involved IN and WITH
 

correct!
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