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#2 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:30 am is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't unde |
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Good morning Jam, most English people have great difficulty in understanding Scots and Irish folk. Each have strong dialects and both speak very quickly. Of course there are many Scots and Irish who speak perfectly good English.
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#3 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:32 am is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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Hi,
Try this for size and guess the accent I'm trying!!
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#4 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 14:01 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi,
Try this for size and guess the accent I'm trying!!
Alan |
Hi Alan, are you trying to say something about being frightened by a man? Are you trying to emulate a Welsh? My second guess would be Scot but it doesn't sound like it. I am going with Welsh.
Hi Jamilion,
there are a lot of accents that are quite difficult to understand unless you have been exposed to them before.
In North America, the differences between various accents are less pronounced than in the UK.
I would say I find Scottish, Welsh (depending on which parts) and Fijian accents to be the most difficult.
But generally if these guys choose to speak in standard English (throw away their slang terms and unique ways of constructing their sentences) they can be understood very well...ie code switch to standard English.
Unlike Kitosdad, I find that I can hang with the Irish accent quite easily |
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#5 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 14:16 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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Hi,
I was trying what we would call broad Scots.
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#6 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 14:22 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi,
I was trying what we would call broad Scots.
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Cool. What were you trying to say? I always thought the Scots speak with a higher pitch than that...and they speak really fast |
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Blue113 You can meet me at english-test.net
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#7 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 14:27 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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Hi,
What I meant was: The other day upon the stair/I met a man who wasn't there/He wasn't there again today/Oh how I wish he'd go away.
You want that higher pitched?
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#8 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 14:48 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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"The other day upon the stair/I met a man who wasn't there/He wasn't there again today/Oh how I wish he'd go away." - Doesnt make sense to me. Dude's schizophrenic or something?
Lol the high pitched one was funny Alan, thanks for being such a good sport. |
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#9 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 15:05 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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I wouldn't agree with Kito's statement that "most English people have great difficulty in understanding Scots and Irish folk." Some English people have some difficulty in understanding some Scots or Irish people ( my uncle, whose very gutteral Glasgow accent stays with him always, is incredibly hard to understand). Most Scots speak very good English. However, most regions of Scotland have their own dialect. Dialect refers to differences in accent, grammar and vocabulary among different versions of a language.
In my student days I lived just north of Aberdeen in north-east Scotland .A neighbour's young son, who spoke perfect Standard English when he wanted to, taught me many local expressions in Doric, that distinctive dialect of the region.
Among them ( still with me after more years than I care to remember !) were ..
"Loons and quines" .... " Boys and girls " .
"Foo's yer neeps ? " "Chavvin awa " ..... " How are things with you? " "Just great."
Michael's father was a farm worker at a big farm just up the road, owned by a woman. She gave Michael a real 'telling-off ' for addressing me in the local dialect. She said that it was 'disrespectful ' !!
My mother, brought up in Bathgate in central Scotland, 100 miles south, couldn't understand Michael when he spoke in his local dialect. Nor would many English people manage. ... but would they understand if they were addressed in his local dialect by a Geordie from North East England ? I doubt it !
Dialect is an important part of the cultural heritage of the British Isles. It is not slang as Blue113 seems to think ... " throw away their slang terms and unique ways of constructing their sentences ". Yes, some accents are difficult to understand but please don't confuse a Scottish accent ( which I have ) with a regional dialect ! HH |
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#10 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 15:20 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't unde |
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| Kitosdad wrote: |
Good morning Jam, most English people have great difficulty in understanding Scots and Irish folk. Each have strong dialects and both speak very quickly. Of course there are many Scots and Irish who speak perfectly good English.
Kitos. |
I don't know what scotts my acquaintances are but, at least, they don't speak in a way that non-native speaker like me wouldn't understand - not fast, not in strange accent. Few things I noticed was that they pronounce "better" as "bč-tter" and used "wee" a lot instead of "tad" - a wee bit. |
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#11 (permalink) Tue Jan 12, 2010 21:29 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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Very interesting Thank you all for your important informations even if your opinions were somehow contrdictive about the accents which may be the most difficult.. but now I'm sure there are...
and that is good and bad thing for students, good because that bears 'for example' some of our foreign accent as foreign speakers. and bad because we don't know sometimes, if the problem was coming from our understanding or from the accent while we listen to one of that difficult accents. but I think we have to be faraway from those accents at present ,so as not to fall in their hole... But so far, I'm convinced that I'm driving on the highway to the pure English language here! furthermore I'm not against learning all the accents or a part of each one of them, because I'm very sure that each one of them is interesting and worthy to be learnt.
Jam.. _________________ We are always looking for a miracle but the things we are used to seeing are more miraculous than those we are looking for. |
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#13 (permalink) Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:06 am is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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Ah!, thank you for your new information _________________ We are always looking for a miracle but the things we are used to seeing are more miraculous than those we are looking for. |
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#15 (permalink) Wed Jan 13, 2010 13:13 pm is there a so difficult English accent that genuine native speaker can't understa |
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| And we usually put a full stop (period) at the end of a sentence. |
Really?! I will try to imitate you.
Thank you. _________________ We are always looking for a miracle but the things we are used to seeing are more miraculous than those we are looking for. |
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