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#32 (permalink) Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:33 am Pessimism |
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Hello Alan,
If we learn a language I think it is very important to know the more about the culture, history etc. of this nations to became familiar with this language. Thanks Alan, that you give us possibility to learn more. Now the second saying was what I was searching on the Net.
"It's being so cheerful that keeps me going"
I felt this is a humorous but poignant saying about the woe and miseries. I found the answer: BBC.co.UK
ITMA ="It's That Man Again" was a weekly comedy show. It was launched in 1939 when BBC decided that its radio broadcast needed. In the year when the Second World War began; on 1.st September 1939. The show was named after the phrase newspapers commonly used to describe Hitler: It's that a man again.
I have to laugh because the title is very good. I heard a lot about the English humor but if I'd never heard about it this title would reveal everything about it.
When you want to write about the pessimism, at your second saying we bump into the humor.
On the 6th January 1949, the final ITMA was broadcast. Tommy Hanley's illness and death made an end of the series. With his death the most popular radio shows of the forties died also. The item closed with an other poignant suggestion; " Shall we close the door for the last time."
I envy the English Humor because Hungary is famous about the suicide.
Regards: Kati Svaby _________________ We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage. |
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#33 (permalink) Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:03 am Pessimism |
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Hello Alan,
I hope no problem if I send something to this theme? It is written in the introduction of John Bunyan: Slough of Despond. "It is the low ground where the scum and filth of a guilty conscience, caused by conviction of sin, continually gather, and for this reason it is called the Slough of Despond."
And an other saying what I took much time to understand its meaning: "I'm not feeling myself today"/ tonight/recently etc. Now I think, I can interpret that it means: I feel upset, troubled or disturbed. Familiar one: "I'm not myself today. Maybe I'm you."
Best regards: Kati Svaby _________________ We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage. |
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Kati Svaby I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#34 (permalink) Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:56 am Pessimism |
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Good day Alan,
This is truely one interesting lecture to learn about expressing feelings of the "black side". People have mood, and in my case most of them are tend to be unhappy ones due to works, haha. So I think it's very useful to learn the expression "I am not feeling myself today" when friends or colleques asking about what's going on with me.
Hello Kati,
Thanks for the supplementary information and your own interpretation about "The Slough of Despond", that saves me time to google it. :-)
Cheers,
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#35 (permalink) Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:20 am Pessimism |
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Dear Alan, I went through your essay and enjoyed it. The beautiful idioms adorn the esaay. It is fine piece of writing. |
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#36 (permalink) Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:37 am Pessimism |
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| Hi, guys! How shall I write - class work or classwork? Thanks a lot in advance. |
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#37 (permalink) Fri Dec 02, 2011 18:31 pm Pessimism |
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Either may be possible, but we'd have to know more to be absolutely sure. What is the rest of the sentence? _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#38 (permalink) Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:26 am Pessimism |
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Good essay,thank you Mr. Alan I was very pessimistic to not having time enough to read, and I am glad to return to study again and I am optimistic now. |
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#39 (permalink) Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:52 am Pessimism |
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Dear Alan
I am very glad to receive such a wanderful essay from you! You had taught me a lot of expressions about negative moods. May I ask a question to you about this essay, Alan? In this essay, there is such a sentence that I could not figure out what you wanted to say, that is----------------- "you might get the impression that the world is shortly coming to an end" According to the context, I think your meaning is "the world will not come to an end recently". But consider of the grammar, I think the meaning of such expression is "the world will come to an end shortly". This issue really confuessed me. So The core of my questione is, could this word "shortly" express negative statement? I am looking forward to your reply. thank you!
Best Regards Julian |
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#40 (permalink) Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:12 pm Pessimism |
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Hello Alan, Many thanks for giving us another chance to repeat what we learned. The truth is I have forgotten lot of things from this essay. The practice makes the perfect.-we say in my country also.
Now I try to learn from another aspect. 1. Sorry to sound so depressed = sorry to give an impression of being very sad and without hope. 2. I don't want you to feel too down today = I do my best to boost my mood. 3. Frightfully sorry if it makes you feel fed up.=I awfully sorry it makes you tired. 4. some of us have that unhappy knack=(skill or ability) of looking on the black side.= some are prone to look on the dark side of everything 5.Mona did moan quite a lot used a catchphrase that became very popular. After each saga of her woes and miseries she would say in her mournful voice: “It's being so cheerful that keeps me going.”-says Mona Lot, her name is a pan: moan(groan) a lot;the catchphrase means about that " It's being so cheerful, that is enough for me temporarily. (?) keep sb going= to be enough for sb until they get what they are waiting for 6 Such people as Mona, when asked how they are, they answer: “Oh, mustn't grumble, you know.”= Oh, mustn't complain, you know. 7. When the graphs in the manager's office show a continuous downward curve, things are said to be going from bad to worse. = to be getting even worse. 8. if you're talking solely (only)about your own despair, you could choose one of these two: a. to be down in the mouth — which can be a passing bad mood as when you've just heard that the tax on petrol has gone up. (=a passing unhappiness and depression.)
…b. or down in the dumps(=feeling unhappy) — which is a longer lasting depression and the only solution to which is a holiday long enough to make your problems disappear. 9.Tthe 17th century writer John Bunyan, you can effectively remark: “I'm passing through the — Slough(despair) of Despond.(lose heart)” When sb. is in a mental state in which a person feels no hope and is very afraid. 10. An expression that half apologises for your dark looks by suggesting that such is not your usual frame of mind: “I'm not feeling myself today" ; but by tomorrow i will fell better. 11.I do hope I haven't made you feel too downcast(sad or depressed) 12…If you are prone to be pessimistic about the possibility of success in any venture(= a business project) or situation, you are said to look on the black side./Its opposition to see of the bright side of life 13. If your despondency(=sadness) refers to business or politics where in your view the position is deteriorating,(to become worst) you say: “Things are going from bad to worse.” go from bad to worse = it's getting more and more difficult 14. And when the business has reached its lowest point, you declare that it has hit rock bottom. = touch bottom/plumb the depth (of despair) 15. You can hint at dissatisfaction with life by answering the question: “How are you?” with a brief:” Mustn't grumble"= Mustn't complain 16. If your bad mood is shortlived (=lasting for a shot time)you are down in the mouth = shortlived depression 17. if it's a continuing gloom, down in the dumps. = your depression doesn't cease. 18. This condition of being downcast(sad or depressed) is described in literary terms as the Slough of Despond. 19.And finally, you can explain the reason for being generally fed up by saying: “I'm not feeling myself today."= this isn't my day.
Regards: Kati Svaby _________________ We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage. |
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#41 (permalink) Wed Apr 18, 2012 15:21 pm Pessimism |
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| I hate pessimism and pessimist, enough from me. |
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#42 (permalink) Wed Apr 18, 2012 17:43 pm Pessimism |
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Who likes the pessimism? Who would like to be a pessimist? There are a period of life when some people became pessimist and they are unable to believe good things to happen or things to be successful.
Now we are not pessimist only we try to learn the expressions of the pessimism in English also. We already know them in our mother tongue. _________________ We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage. |
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