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Hello Fajr ^^;
I think "over there" is farther than "there". " here" means: in, at, or to this place while "over here" means: in a specified area or place.
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| #3 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 0:49 am there and over there |
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| I am not sure, but I think that "come over" means to visit. Do you want to say that? I`d like to know a correct answer about it. |
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| #4 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:54 am there and over there |
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"there" and "over there" have the same meaning
"come" and "come over" also have the same meaning |
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| #5 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:38 pm there and over there |
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| Cristovam wrote: |
| I am not sure, but I think that "come over" means to visit. Do you want to say that? I`d like to know a correct answer about it. |
My reply was based on the assumption that Fajr misplaced the comma in: "Stand up. Come over, here." I assumed Fajr actually meant: "Stand up. Come over here."; because the question was about here Vs. over here.
Anyway, "come over" also means: To change sides, as in a controversy. (source: thefreedictionary.com).
I hope this answers your question.
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| #6 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:40 pm there and over there |
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| Peterkua wrote: |
"there" and "over there" have the same meaning
"come" and "come over" also have the same meaning |
I disagree. I think we need a native English speaker.
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| #7 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 13:47 pm there and over there |
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I think, we should combine 'over here' and 'over there' into one group, and then it is possible to say that 'there' and 'over there' have similar meanings. But I don't think that 'come' and 'come over' mean the same. Because, as it has been already mentioned, 'come over' has several meanings that are different from just 'come'.
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| #8 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 14:00 pm there and over there |
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Another argument is that the preposition "over" = "across" which implies a distance farther than just "there".
I'm starting to wonder if any native English speaker has seen this post.
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| #9 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 14:04 pm there and over there |
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:)
You can write to some of the native speakers to draw their attention. I did it sometimes, when I wanted to know something certainly.
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| #10 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 14:19 pm there and over there |
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| Inga wrote: |
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You can write to some of the native speakers to draw their attention. I did it sometimes, when I wanted to know something certainly. |
Thanks for the advice. I was a little bit hesitant if members were allowed to pm coaches. I asked both Jamie, from USA, and Micawber, from UK to give us their opinions as natives who speak different brands of English. I'm looking forward to their replies ^^;.
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| #11 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 14:42 pm there and over there |
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I agree with GAF that 'over' in both cases indicates a greater physical or psychological distance.
(By the way, we used to have a single word meaning 'over there'-- 'yonder'-- but it is falling out of use.)
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| #12 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 15:46 pm there and over there |
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Thanks, Micawber ^^; for your prompt reply. Speaking of which, I have a feeling that soon people sms abbreviations will take over.
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| #13 (permalink) Thu Jan 14, 2010 20:15 pm there and over there |
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I agree with Mister Micawber that in "over here" and "over there" the word "over" indicates greater psychological distance.
"Come over" is a completely different expression than "over here" or "over there". We generally don't use an adverb after it, such as when the little girl down the street from me screams to her friend across the road, "CAN YOU COME OVER?" It means, "Can you come to my house?" If she said, "Can you come over here?" it would usually mean, "Can you come to where I'm standing?" |
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| #14 (permalink) Sun Jan 17, 2010 19:10 pm there and over there |
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| Mister Micawber wrote: |
| (By the way, we used to have a single word meaning 'over there'-- 'yonder'-- but it is falling out of use.) |
Hello MM,
thank you for reminding me. Always, when I hear that special word "yonder" I feel remided of a nice song by the honourable Creedence Clearwater Revival called "Midnight Special". I never heard that word again.
Well, you wake up in the mornin', you hear the work bell ring,
And they march you to the table to see the same old thing.
Ain't no food upon the table, and no pork up in the pan.
But you better not complain, boy, you get in trouble with the man.
CHORUS:
Let the Midnight Special shine a light on me,
Let the Midnight Special shine a light on me,
Let the Midnight Special shine a light on me,
Let the Midnight Special shine a everlovin' light on me.
Yonder come miss Rosie, how in the world did you know?
By the way she wears her apron, and the clothes she wore.
Umbrella on her shoulder, piece of paper in her hand;
She come to see the gov'nor, she wants to free her man.
CHORUS
If you're ever in Houston, well, you better do the right;
You better not gamble, there, you better not fight, at all
Or the sheriff will grab ya and the boys will bring you down.
The next thing you know, boy, Oh! You're prison bound.
CHORUS
CHORUS
Well, the following link doesn´t content a clear sound, but provides an idea of the early seventieth.
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