Religion and Tolerance

[Darkness]

Not everyones believe same as your believe. Or someone don't believes the thing that you believe. Do you accepting it as disrespect to your believe or disrespect to you? Is that possible to earn someones believe by showing the believe to your believe? By this point of view does religion has positive or negative role in human relationship?

[Ralf]

I believe in a world without any metaphysical power or devine intervention. I don't believe in destiny or any other decree of fate. To me, these notions lay within people's inherent desire to look for explanations in the stars. Since those don't give away much, people take the ancient stones of Abrasax or the Old Testament and read things into it the way they see fit.

I don't think that this is a bad thing as long as you don't try to superimpose your opinion on others. Unfortunately, this is what most religions do. All those "one and only true churches" representing the "one and only true faith" have a history of spreading the word by reaching for the sword.
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[Darkness]

But they are proud with this history, they representing it as showing the true way to human. Only thing that religions did for mankind, that we know from history is creating cultural effects or new cultures which is not bad in some cases, but because of that we just killed our ancient traditions, our nationality and most things we had.

[Cgk]

Hello Darkness,

you said that religion creates new cultures. Could you explain that further and give an example? How did this "kill" our nationality and most things we had?

Claudia
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[Darkness]

Sure, some of our ancient national traditions can be taboo in religion that any religious have to get rid of or "kill". Now some religions becoming culture itself, for example Hinduism and Iudaism.

[Cgk]

My personal view goes like this:

A culture in itself is created by the surroundings and circumstances a people had (and still has) to face, i.e. desert, snow, mountains, rivers, oceans as well as the kind of weather and the types of food that the type of surrounding provided (provides). In order to survive, a tribe had to adapt to these factors. They literally "made their living". The tribes that were native to a certain area created their religion according to the surroundings they've always known, the tribes who traveled to other places because of, let's say, constant famine, brought the culture and religion they had created in accordance to their old home along with them. But since they had to face a different surrounding and different circumstances, their culture slowly changed to adapt to their new home. For example, the Galatians were different from the Boii, yet they were both Celts. So in a way it went like this: surroundings and circumstances created culture and religion.

Most old religions have been absorbed into the newer ones. Therefore they weren't completely destroyed. There are still many pagan traditions in Christianity, this is why the Roman Catholics are different from many Eastern Christian branches. Again, notice the roots in the people's surroundings and circumstances.

Claudia
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[Darkness]

Agree, culture created by people for themselves. Religion have a history of spreading the word by reaching for the sword (Alan (c)). But what happened with old culture after spreading religions by invaders? What hell old Roman or Scandinavian culture has been needed culture from Nazareth? Or Turkish culture from Arabia? :)

[Political Lurker]

IMO - Religion is divisive and the Rev Ian Paisley is a good example/proof of that.
Speaking as an Irish Catholic who grew up in a Protestant area that would be my assertion.

Claudia - try the word environment I think it could save you some typing. :-)



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[Cgk]

Darkness, to me, culture is not synonymous with religion. Religion is part of a culture, but not culture itself/as a whole.

Jamie, thanks for pointing that out. I did express myself a bit awkwardly, didn't I? lol. I was in a hurry, so I started to babble.

Claudia

P.S. I like swords! So there!
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[Hoadong]

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Hi Darkness,

My answer to your question is "Let others believe what they want to believe, even if you do not agree."
Different people, nations, races have different cultures and beliefs. I respect to every culture and religion, and I like the words which were said by the priest in the Dead Men's Path by Chinua Achube: “Let the eagle perch and let the hawk perch”.

Hoado
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[Jorgedon]

Religion is a doctrine. Faith is innate of man. A person may belong to a certain religion but his faith may be different from those of his fellows. Respect to human's beliefs is mutual, but religious practices that may affect others' rights of faith should be forbidden. No one ever has the right to do anything as he pleased should flourished if it violates the moral beliefs of anybody. There should be an exclusivity for those who thread their own system of beliefs, but it it should only be limited in their own backyard.

[AndrewB]

Hi, friends,
I think the trouble is not our tolerance of religions. The trouble is our tolerance to intolerant people. I never have a problem meeting someone who is living a certain religion. But I can get a problem with someone who wants to make me convert to his religion.
And I would like to see more balance in some developments. In our (European) countries there are built a lot of mosques for Muslim people. But look for the number of churches which are built in Islamic countries. So my question is: Have we got too much tolerance? Or have they got too much intolerance? Or is it only a question of selfconsciousness?
Things are not so easy today.
Best regards,
Andreas

[Kamy__01]

I believe in God, but I also respetc who doesn't.