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#2 (permalink) Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:02 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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Use the plural when you are talking about the sets of words of several languages, dialects or argots. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:04 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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Thank you for your attention, MM.
So, I think I may say like, "vocabularies of English dialects". But for my example "Talk to the world through English ________", I think "vocabulary" is more appropriate for the blank because variety is not concerened in the phrase. In other words, the writer considers English words themselves a whole. |
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#4 (permalink) Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:57 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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Yes. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#5 (permalink) Mon Apr 05, 2010 15:17 pm Vocabulary |
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| Well, the word 'vocabulary' is an uncountable noun. So, can I say 'memorise all the pieces of the vocabulary here'? |
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#6 (permalink) Mon Apr 05, 2010 15:57 pm the plural form of vocabulary |
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i don't know. it's better to ask Mr. Kitosdad. _________________ Man gets and forgets, God gives and forgives. |
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#7 (permalink) Mon Apr 05, 2010 17:03 pm the plural form of vocabulary |
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I think you just need to use some, a lot of or all information. _________________ Let my English be checked! |
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#8 (permalink) Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:27 am Vocabulary |
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| Leong187 wrote: |
| Well, the word 'vocabulary' is an uncountable noun. So, can I say 'memorise all the pieces of the vocabulary here'? |
No, you would say, "Memorize all the vocabulary words here." You could just say, "Memorize all the vocabulary here."
Each component of the vocabulary is called a "vocabulary word". |
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#9 (permalink) Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:44 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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| To gild the lily, but 'vocabulary' is also a countable noun. |
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#10 (permalink) Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:07 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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My understanduing is ....
The word vocabulary does not have a plural and no plural is required because vocabulary IS already plural! (it can be thought of as a plural form of uncountable noun) It is an extension of WORDS.
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| So, I think I may say like, "vocabularies of English dialects". But for my example ... |
You should say: "The vocabulary of English dialects" or as another example, the "The different vocabulary of English dialects" or "All the different vocabulary used in different English dialects" or "all the different vocabulary in the many languages of the world"
Unlike for instance "WATER" which is also an uncountable noun, but in this case it is a singular uncountable noun.
Therefore, if we call a land mass of water "water" and a knight travelled over many "land masses of water" to find sleeping beauty, then we could say he travelled the "waters" to find his princess!
But as time goes on, there will be more and more language references to ways and words in English that have changed. In this case, the "golden oldies" such as me, will always meet the "clever cocky person" that throws dictionary after dictionary at us.
I will never forget one of the largest language testing organizations in the world writing to me because I commented on one of their tests to inform them, that the audio "did you do the exam yet" was a grammatical error and should in fact be "have you done it yet".
Their reply was ... "In America that is how we speak and although we accept that it may be an incorrect grammar form, it is American English therefore we will not change it"
To me the word "vocabularies" sits like a blob of something dark, brown, nasty and horrible on a plain of fluffy white snow! |
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#11 (permalink) Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:09 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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| Haihao wrote: |
| To gild the lily, but 'vocabulary' is also a countable noun. |
Yes, but "vocabularies" means more than one collection of words. The issue here is that many Europeans make the mistake of calling each individual word "a vocabulary", which is completely wrong in English. A vocabulary cannot be just one word. |
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#12 (permalink) Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:16 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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The Germans often confuse the word 'vocabulary' with the German word 'Vokabel' which is countable.
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#13 (permalink) Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:16 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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Correct Jamie
vocabulary has no singular (it can't have because it is a word that represents all words and if it represents all words, there cannot be ONE ALL WORDS)
"the language has 6 million words" "the language has a vocabulary of 6 million words"
Vocabulary cannot be used in singular form .... but I am sure someone will disagree! <smile> Here look at good ole Leo.....
ENGLISCH DEUTSCH der ausgewählten Wörter im Trainer 2 Treffer Unmittelbare Treffer vocable die Vokabel word die Vokabel |
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#14 (permalink) Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:18 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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Oh you are so correct Torsten ... I hear it everyday !!
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#15 (permalink) Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:19 am the plural form of vocabulary |
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Grammatically, the word 'vocabulary' is singular because it requires a singular verb form: Her active vocabulary is very big.
The noun 'information' is uncountable and requires a singular verb form too: The information is correct.
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