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#2 (permalink) Sat Nov 12, 2005 21:53 pm What does it take to be successfu? |
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| not sure what you're getting it you need both technical skills and the ability to get along with people if you want to be succesful. if you don't get along with people you won't be able to gain much technical knowledge either. sounds like a no brainer to me. |
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Hipster I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Sun Nov 13, 2005 13:44 pm What does it take to be successful? |
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I agree with hipster that you need both to be successful.
Today, there is so much work organised in projects, even as a programmer (I take them as an example because they are/were always said to sit alone in a cellar and programme, progamme, programme) you need to interact with other people - your customers, your colleagues yada yada yada.
But of course, you also need technical knowledge, professional skills etc. to succeed in your job - you should know what you do and what you're talking about  |
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Stefanie I'm new here and I like it ;-)

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#4 (permalink) Wed Nov 16, 2005 17:15 pm What does it take to be successful? |
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It seems to me that you need both. The times when persons on their own could do something outstanding have passed - almost everyting that is done now, is done collectively, that is why the ability to communicate with people and be able to understand them is very important.
Fom the other hand, if you don't intend to be a leader, the ability to motivate and lead people takes a back seat. But anyway, if you are arguing about which decision is better when doing something, you will surely need the skills to communicate and convince.
From the other hand, no matter how good leader you are, in my opinion it will be difficult for you without knowledge of (the details of) what you (your team) are working on. _________________ Factum non fabula |
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Sidle Jinks I'm here quite often ;-)
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#5 (permalink) Wed Nov 16, 2005 17:17 pm What does it take to be successful? |
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Although it may depend on what you mean by "to be successfull", but I don't want to go into philosophy  _________________ Factum non fabula |
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Sidle Jinks I'm here quite often ;-)
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#6 (permalink) Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:17 pm Defintion of success? |
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Hello again Sidle Jinks,
What is your definition of success? I think this is an interesting question which we could discuss here. You say you don't want to go into philosophy but isn't everything in life more or less about philosophy? A company has its philosophy, a person has their philosophy etc. To me the word philosophy means principles and values. If you learn a language you also learn more about culture and mentality. So why not talk about success? |
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Carol_Cz I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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#7 (permalink) Mon Nov 21, 2005 15:22 pm Defintion of success? |
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Hello everybody!
| carol_cz wrote: |
| You say you don't want to go into philosophy but isn't everything in life more or less about philosophy? |
For me philosophy now is a headache, because I have to pass the exam... Yes, Philosophy itself is a very interesting subject, but not when you have to know all the differences between, say, neopositivism and empirical criticism and when your point of view has to coincide with that of your teacher or else you risk to flunk. Well, enough about sad...
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| What is your definition of success? I think this is an interesting question which we could discuss here. |
Yes, you are right, this is a very interesting question. Having read your question, I asked myself about my own definition of success. To my surprise, it was rather difficult for me to formulate an answer, though it seemed quite clear and evident. Having thought it over, I can say that for me to be successful in the first place means to be happy. I think it's not what you do, it's whether you like it or not...
But it's just my opinion... _________________ Factum non fabula |
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Sidle Jinks I'm here quite often ;-)
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#8 (permalink) Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:29 am What does it take to be successful? |
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These two are both needed to be successful. Even the most technical guy needs some communication and interpersonal skills to succeed on any of his endeavors. A system analyst who is very good in designing system architecture but doesn't have the ability to clearly convey his idea to his colleagues and clients will not succeed.
On the other side, a project manager with good interpersonal skills but lacks techical ability will not understand how the project work and cannot easily adopt to changes. |
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Sylphidae You can meet me at english-test.net
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#9 (permalink) Fri Jan 13, 2006 20:06 pm Success |
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| Hello, everybody!I'm new here. I find the topic really interesting. You are right saying that it all depends on what you understand by success, but don't forget also, that being successful in one thing may make you unsuccessful in others. Say you want to make your career in business, than forgte about your private life. But the point is will you consider yourself successful at the end of your life? |
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#10 (permalink) Fri Jan 13, 2006 20:11 pm What is your definition of success? |
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Hello amanta, you are raising an interesting question: How do you define success? And you also say that you might ask yourself at the and of your life whether or not you have been successful. Why ask at the end of life? Why not ask this important question earlier? _________________ A smile will open doors  |
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#11 (permalink) Sat Jan 14, 2006 13:30 pm What does it take to be successful? |
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It seems that I agree with amante_amina - our definition of success constantly changes. While we are young we have one definition, when we become elder, the definition of success changes with us - omnia mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis. So the question is, if you think you are successful now, will you think the same, say, ten years later? _________________ Factum non fabula |
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