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Infinitive Construction #1 (permalink) Fri Feb 05, 2010 13:22 pm   Infinitive Construction
 

Hello All,

What's your interpretation of this sentence?

I need X to try this.

A:You simply want X to try this.
B:You want to take advantage of X to try this.

Hope my question makes sense.

Thanks in advance :)
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Infinitive Construction #2 (permalink) Fri Feb 05, 2010 15:14 pm   Infinitive Construction
 

It would be better if you could give us an idea what 'X' is-- a person's name? A utensil or piece of equipment?
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Infinitive Construction #3 (permalink) Fri Feb 05, 2010 15:21 pm   Infinitive Construction
 

Mister Micawber wrote:
It would be better if you could give us an idea what 'X' is-- a person's name? A utensil or piece of equipment?


Thanks for your prompt reply!

X as a person
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Infinitive Construction #4 (permalink) Fri Feb 05, 2010 15:22 pm   Infinitive Construction
 

I need Mr X to try this = I consider it necessary for Mr X to try this.
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Infinitive Construction #5 (permalink) Fri Feb 05, 2010 15:33 pm   Infinitive Construction
 

Mister Micawber wrote:
I need Mr X to try this = I consider it necessary for Mr X to try this.


Thanks!

Do you happen to speak Japanese?  (your profile says you are from Yokohama)

If so, please proceed to read further.. if not, still thank you for sharing your time to respond to my question.

I need Mr.X to try this.

In Japanese, I thought I could translate as

A:Mr.Xにこれを試してもらう必要がある。
B:これを試すために、Mr.Xが必要である。

What do you think of my translation B ?

Thank you very much
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Infinitive Construction #6 (permalink) Fri Feb 05, 2010 15:53 pm   Infinitive Construction
 

Ah! Mister, I think I've got it.

I guess my translations ,A and B, are both correct.
B sounds a bit awkward but if instead of Mr.X, I put an utensil as a subject, then the translation B sounds natural.
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Infinitive Construction #7 (permalink) Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:39 am   Infinitive Construction
 

Nope, sorry-- I cannot read Japanese.
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