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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today



 
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #1 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:38 am   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Finley: New Afghanistan strategy sacrifices troops

Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today. It's immoral to commit our troops -- our children -- to a war without doing everything possible to protect their lives.
That's not happening in Afghanistan.
The politicians and generals have decided to make the safety of Afghan citizens a higher priority than avoiding American deaths and injuries.
They call it a "hearts and minds" strategy, meaning that if the military objectives can be accomplished without inflicting suffering on the civilian population, the people will be more willing to cooperate in defeating the Taliban

There's no evidence that Afghan civilians are warming to the approach. But there is concern that it is costing American lives.
Lara M. Dadkhan, an intelligence analyst writing in the New York Times last week, detailed the effect of a new policy from commanding Gen. Stanley McChrystal to use air strikes and long-range artillery under "very limited and prescribed conditions."
Air support is used to soften targets and provide cover for advancing troops. But Dadkhan contends under the new policy, troops must wait for help from the air and artillery while the civilian impact is weighed.
In one instance cited by Dadkhan, marines last September in the Kunar Province called for air support when they came under fire while searching for a weapons cache. Their request was rejected out of concern for civilians.
An hour after their call for help, the marines, pinned down and running out of ammunition, were finally backed up by helicopters. Four marines and nine Afghan allies were killed, and 22 others wounded.
The Taliban has been quick to exploit our sensitivity to civilian damage. Both U.S. and Afghan troops told the Associated Press that insurgents are using civilians as human shields, placing them on the rooftops of the buildings they're firing from.
New reports from the military also note the emergence of deadly Taliban snipers, who are inflicting great pain on U.S. troops and are able to more freely operate without the worry of air strikes.
Civilian casualties are an inevitable and regrettable cost of war. They ought to be avoided whenever possible.
But it's not always possible when the lives of Americans are at stake.
Harry Truman rained down hellfire on Japan's civilian population to spare the lives of a half-million allied troops.
He wasn't worried about Japanese resentment. He was trying to avoid sending any more "We regret to inform you ..." letters.
Maybe our kinder, gentler warfare will soothe the Afghan people.
But if it results in higher U.S. troop deaths and injuries, it will lose the hearts and minds of the American people, who have every reason to expect their government to value the lives of their soldiers -- their children -- more than a PR campaign to win over the people our troops are dying for.
Nolan Finley is editorial page editor of The Detroit News. His column runs on Sunday and Thursday. Reach him at nfinley@detnews.com or (313) 222-2064.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100221/OPINION03/2210312/1008/opinion01/Finley--New-Afghanistan-strategy-sacrifices-troops#ixzz0gJaEzakO
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #2 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:44 am   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Why do you keep posting this rubbish?

Your continued need to stir up shit is really detracting from the mission of this forum as a place where people can come together for mutual language learning.

There are plenty of places online where you can find venues for trying to get Americans to play in your petty arguments. I can't imagine that's the actual reason you joined this forum. It's certainly not the reason the vast majority of people visit this site everyday.

And please don't respond with some half hearted comment where you pretend you have no ulterior motives and issue some insulting half complement.
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #3 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:17 am   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Yes, i agree with you, Oxford Blues. Only what I see is constant procvocation.
Sometimes i think, we should leave Afghanistan to itself, but that would be wrong.

Two things to this:

A great number of People
sound off and convict
with weighty look
People in situations
in those themselves
had never to act
(Kristiane Allert-Wybranietz)

And:
we simply have to ignore Jamie. In other forums we called Users like him "Troll"
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #4 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:14 am   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Hehe!! back for yet another pop at me Oxy - Just remember Im Irish which might explain why I feel less insecure :-)

You're Ad hominem attacks are becoming more desperate!!

Maybe if you could convey yourself a bit better you wouldn't continually be put in your place. This was posted on a few other forums by an American friend with no negative response's. Last time you were lecturing me on American culture -

OxfordBlues wrote:
Ambivalent.Lurker wrote:
I have never been to the US


hmmm...

I've never been to China, but then again I don't think I'd feel very secure in making generalizations about Chinese culture in comparison with the my home country either ;)


And my response was -
"Hehe!! back for yet another pop at me Oxy - Just remember Im Irish which might explain why I feel less insecure :-)
In the context I mentioned Architecture - I have watched plenty of TV and know that there's no British city which is even remotely like New York the older apartment blocks in New York are usually approx 1000 square metre's living area (not including stairwell)on either 4 or 5 floors of either 200 or 250 sq metres with say 3 or 4 apartments on each floor.

This is clearly a Classic mainland European style you would rarely if ever see in the UK

I has also heard that New York is like no were else in the US but you could only have it in the US - Which is exactly the way Berlin is described in a German context

Pretty obvious stuff I would have thought."

Then it went a bit quiet.?????

If I were you I would stop revealing you're status as a literary foot soldier and watch that chip on you're shoulder.

If I had of posted the thread about rape in the US military you would have attacked me for that. - But you don't appear intelligent enough to realize that.

I would suggest you read the post - I am not here to intentionally offend anyone, -
or to humor anyone including Americans either for that matter.

Bergdeutsche :-) Im not even gonna waste my time sweety pie.
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #5 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:23 am   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Well, Jamie-Sweety. Too bad for you. I do not love boys. You have too look somethere else.
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #6 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:56 am   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Bergdeutscher wrote:
Well, Jamie-Sweety. Too bad for you. I do not love boys. You have too look somethere else.


???? Is that supposed to be an insult?

Is it negative to be gay?

Are gays allowed on this forum?

And if I were Gay should I therefore feel insulted.?

You and you're "Politically correct" kind require only a short piece of rope to hang themselves.
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #7 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 13:55 pm   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Jamie, it goes on and goes on: what I sayd: Provcation, inusults, to twist somebody's words, attacks to certain groups of persons or one person - that's what no one like in fourms (and in real live). It shows that you are a troll.

You are an Irish in an english learning forum and you are not helping other learners. What I said: your english must be worse then my, because you missunderstud me once more again:

Where in my post have I insulted Gays?

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You and you're "Politically correct" kind require only a short piece of rope to hang themselves.

And that is something for the adimin.

I hope, not all Irish are like you.
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #8 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 14:52 pm   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Bergdeutscher wrote:
Well, Jamie-Sweety. Too bad for you. I do not love boys. You have too look somethere else.


Hahaha!!!

There is an old saying/idiom when dealing with a fool -

"all you need is to let him keep talking" - in this context known as "Just giving him enough rope to hang himself"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Give%20him%20enough%20rope%20and%20he'll%20hang%20himself

hehe!!

You can take a horse to water - but you can't make it drink! hehe!!

BD Even if you understood what was being said I doubt you if you would have a clue what was meant.

Now go back to the start and do not collect 200 pounds :-)
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #9 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:27 pm   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

I'm sorry for it: "Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself" is an english proverb, that can be ambiguous - esspecialy in an english learning forum it can be understood as an insulte.

Quote:
all you need is to let him keep talking


If this is your general intention, nevertheless, it points: you only wan others to react - the actually intention of a troll.
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #10 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:45 pm   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Bergdeutscher wrote:
I'm sorry for it: "Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself" is an english proverb, that can be ambiguous - esspecialy in an english learning forum it can be understood as an insulte.

Quote:
all you need is to let him keep talking


If this is your general intention, nevertheless, it points: you only wan others to react - the actually intention of a troll.


My point is clear - You do not need my help to make you seem foolish.

Now a direct question there is only 2 possible answers - yes and no.

Have you another Identity on this Forum or have had one in the past?
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #11 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:57 pm   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Quote:
Have you another Identity on this Forum or have had one in the past?

No and no.
And you? Have you ever been friendly, not anti-american and not agressive against others before your live as a troublemaker in this fourm?
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Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today #12 (permalink) Tue Feb 23, 2010 18:36 pm   Every American soldier should be pulled out of Afghanistan today
 

Bergdeutscher wrote:
Quote:
Have you another Identity on this Forum or have had one in the past?

No and no.
And you? Have you ever been friendly, not anti-american and not agressive against others before your live as a troublemaker in this fourm?


Hehehe!!BD Its painfully obvious you are trying too hard

I take people as I find them.

You have 29 posts on this forum and half of them have been chasing me.

5 so far on this thread alone - Yet you are an expert on this forum?

Don't you find that kind of strange? I certainly do

Keep going - its only a matter of time :-)

And this anti American nonsense ???

Have you even read this story?

Do you even know what its about?
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