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Outsider vs Outcast #1 (permalink) Wed Apr 21, 2010 15:09 pm   Outsider vs Outcast
 

Do these nouns mean the same?
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Outsider vs Outcast #2 (permalink) Wed Apr 21, 2010 18:02 pm   Outsider vs Outcast
 

Hi Bagheera,

An outsider is an individual who is not a part of a group or society. Much like a stranger. An outsider had not been a member of and do not belong to that certain group.

An outcast is an individual who is expelled by force from a group or a society. An outcast used to be a member of the group / society, but he / she is denied of his / her affiliation due to one reason or another.

I hope that the explanation is helpful. Consulting your dictionary might make things clearer.
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Outsider vs Outcast #3 (permalink) Wed Apr 21, 2010 19:28 pm   Outsider vs Outcast
 

MIAAAOW! (THAAANKS!!!)
The thing is that it is not clear from the dictionary, because the definition of both is practically the same. And your explanation is very accurate. Now I will bear it in mind!
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Outsider vs Outcast #4 (permalink) Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:58 am   Outsider vs Outcast
 

So, insider is the antonym for outsider?
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Outsider vs Outcast #5 (permalink) Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:26 am   Outsider vs Outcast
 

Blue_Snow wrote:
So, insider is the antonym for outsider?


According to the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary it looks like it is.

Insider - a person who knows a lot about a group or an organization, because they are part of it. The situation was described by one insider as 'absolute chaos'.
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Purrr... #6 (permalink) Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:32 am   Purrr...
 

Hi all,

@ Bagheera :

Purr...purr (Translation : You are most welcome. I am glad to be of service).

@ Blue Snow :

As far as my sources concern...yes.

An outsider is someone who is not, and possibly has never been, a part of a group or society even when that person possesses the knowledge of that particular group. An insider is someone who is accepted by a group or a society, even when that person has not always been a part of the group or society.

The main focus of being an outsider and insider lies on the acceptance of the people around him / her (as a group or society), rather than the origin of that person.
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Purrr... #7 (permalink) Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:55 am   Purrr...
 

Thank you! Your explanation is as exellent as usual.
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Purrr... #8 (permalink) Fri Apr 23, 2010 13:41 pm   Purrr...
 

You are too kind, Bagheera.
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