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#2 (permalink) Wed Apr 21, 2010 17:40 pm I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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#3 (permalink) Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:46 am I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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Thanks! _________________ Help me to improve my English, please. You'll get better company then ;-) |
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#4 (permalink) Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:38 am I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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| Could we use present progressive in the latter sentence to express the extreme anger? |
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#6 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:49 am I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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As the question still remains on the table, I'd like to know which of the variants is more natural. Let's consider another example:
I always visit my grandparents on weekends. I am always visiting my grandparents on weekends.
Are both of them OK? Does the second one imply certain kind of necessity, planning or something else? _________________ Help me to improve my English, please. You'll get better company then ;-) |
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#7 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:13 am I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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I would think,
"I always visit my grandparents on weekends." >> +usualness and -emotion. "I am always visiting my grandparents on weekends." >> +usualness, and +emotion (dissatisfaction or satisfaction) |
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#8 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:30 am I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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Hi Fedorov,
The use of the progressive form in the present is often to express the thought behind it that you wish whatever it is that's continuing, would stop.
Examples:
My neighbour's dog is always barking and it drives me mad.
I'm always telling you not to do that but you take no notice.
She's forever telling us about her new kitchen as if we could care ;less.
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#9 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:59 am I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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Hi Alan,
From your examples, it seems to me that the structure sounds like having a "keep" with it, such as "My neighbour's dog keeps barking and it drives me mad.", indicating the speaker is fed up?
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#10 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:06 am I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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Hi Haihao,
Yes, I think the idea of 'keeping on and on' sums it up well.
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#11 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:23 am I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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| Thank you very much, Alan. |
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#12 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 15:55 pm I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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I thank you very much, too. It's quite useful to learn such a details. _________________ Help me to improve my English, please. You'll get better company then ;-) |
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#14 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 21:40 pm I'm fed up. My sister always borrows my clothes. |
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Oops...Thanks once more, Torsten! _________________ Help me to improve my English, please. You'll get better company then ;-) |
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