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What's the difference between fairly and quite? | "In the year" vs "The year of"
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USAGE OF Suffer #1 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:25 am   USAGE OF Suffer
 

Hi everybody,
I wonder whether we can use "from" with "suffer" or not.Why or why not?
Could you please illustrate it with some examples?
Many thanks,
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USAGE OF Suffer #2 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:58 am   USAGE OF Suffer
 

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Hi Morteza,

'Suffer' in the sense I think you mean suggests experience something painful such as an illness. In that sense it could be: suffer from cancer, asthma, arthritis and so on. It can also be used in a figurative sense: suffer from an inferiority complex, delusions of grandeur, paranoia and so on.

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USAGE OF Suffer #3 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:32 am   USAGE OF Suffer
 

Hi Dear Alan,
And what about these ones?
Most of us have suffered the consequences of stupid decisions taken by others.
In June 1667, England suffered a humiliating defeat by the Dutch.
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USAGE OF Suffer #4 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:19 pm   USAGE OF Suffer
 

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Hi Morteza,

In these examples 'suffer' takes a direct object and has the same sense of experiencing something unpleasant. In the use of 'suffer' followed by 'with' and 'from' the unpleasantness is indirect.

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USAGE OF Suffer #5 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 14:06 pm   USAGE OF Suffer
 

Hi Again,
Therefore, we ourselves can choose to/not to use "from" whenever we want, or there are some limitations?!
I'm quite mixed-up.
Please help me to understand it better,
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USAGE OF Suffer #6 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 16:52 pm   USAGE OF Suffer
 

Let me say that again: Suffer + direct object = experience/feel something which is usual painful or unpleasant such as: loss, embarrassment, discomfort and is usually an abstract idea. Suffer from/with' invariably relates to illness or disability and is the indirect cause of your suffering and is real.

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USAGE OF Suffer #7 (permalink) Sat Apr 24, 2010 19:12 pm   USAGE OF Suffer
 

Dear Alan,
How knowledgeable, skilled and kind you are!
Thanks ever so much,
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