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#2 (permalink) Fri Apr 30, 2010 23:31 pm English Grammar sentence help!? |
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Hi, I think for your first example, we must consider the first phrase as a subject:
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Ex: Arguments for the SMS are typically invoked in settings involving considerable uncertainty and potentially irreversible loses. |
They are typically invoked in settings involving considerable uncertainty and potentially irreversible loses. We are talking about something which the whole sentence is about. So, it must be the subject of the sentence. And I think just your first sentence is correct, isn't it?
However, I would like to hear from Alan, or Torsten. |
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Pasban110 I'm here quite often ;-)

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#3 (permalink) Sat May 01, 2010 17:34 pm English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| Hi Lama. I think your question must be left to your english teacher. I mean the teacher from your country and who speaks your language. After hearing you said that you'd learnt english grammar for SOME DAYS, I know that you're now a beginner. There are many new terms in english must be explained to you in your language by your teacher himself. I mean the equivalent terms. When I started to learn english, my teacher did so. They're basic rules from which I can build my english knowledge myself better. Sometimes, there are something native teachers can't teach you better than your teachers. That's why we always learn philology before other subjects and mother tongue before other languages. |
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#4 (permalink) Sat May 01, 2010 18:28 pm English Grammar sentence help!? |
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I don't think Lama is that much of a beginner, BS. He'd never have been able to construct that post if he hadn't been learning for more than 'some days'. I think that was just an incorrect choice of phrase. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#5 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 12:35 pm English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| Blue_Snow wrote: |
| Hi Lama. I think your question must be left to your english teacher. I mean the teacher from your country and who speaks your language. After hearing you said that you'd learnt english grammar for SOME DAYS, I know that you're now a beginner. There are many new terms in english must be explained to you in your language by your teacher himself. I mean the equivalent terms. When I started to learn english, my teacher did so. They're basic rules from which I can build my english knowledge myself better. Sometimes, there are something native teachers can't teach you better than your teachers. That's why we always learn philology before other subjects and mother tongue before other languages. |
Just what the heck are you taking about? |
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#6 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 18:43 pm English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| What the hell, Pasban! That hell is my thought! |
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Blue_Snow I'm here quite often ;-)

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#7 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 20:49 pm English Grammar sentence help!? |
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:-) You certainly get on a lot of peoples nerves BS. Why don't you just go where you are appreciated? _________________ Keep it simple ... Keep it interesting. |
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#8 (permalink) Mon May 03, 2010 0:56 am English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| Tsering Lama wrote: |
Last Ex: I desperately want to gain flexibility. - I desperately want to be flexible.
Both "gain and be" are verbs so why is "gain"followed by noun "flexibility" and "be" by adjective flexible. -Can you also say "flexibility is what I want to gain desperately." . |
It's grammactical, Tsering. There are always grammactical rules in a certain language. Go this way. "Gain", like other transitive verbs, requires a noun, but not an adjective, to follow as an object. "Be" is a special verb that can be followed by a noun or an adjective. Some other verbs such as feel, sound, taste... that you might as well learn by heart also can be followed by adjectives.... Frankly, you make me come into a question why you have asked such a question. You know to ask "flexibility is what I want to gain desperately" which shows that you are not just "some days" learning English. JLTS _________________ Learning English is just for good |
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Joseph_Learns_To_Speak I'm here quite often ;-)

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#9 (permalink) Mon May 03, 2010 1:10 am English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| Blue_Snow wrote: |
| Hi Lama. I think your question must be left to your english teacher. I mean the teacher from your country and who speaks your language. After hearing you said that you'd learnt english grammar for SOME DAYS, I know that you're now a beginner. There are many new terms in english must be explained to you in your language by your teacher himself. I mean the equivalent terms. When I started to learn english, my teacher did so. They're basic rules from which I can build my english knowledge myself better. Sometimes, there are something native teachers can't teach you better than your teachers. That's why we always learn philology before other subjects and mother tongue before other languages. |
Hi Blue Snow, In my opinion, learning English with a native teacher in a full "English atmosphere" is best. Initially we just find it difficult because we have to manage to understand our teacher but it's easier for us to really master English as a native speakers on our way. Regards, JLTS _________________ Learning English is just for good |
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#10 (permalink) Mon May 03, 2010 6:03 am English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| Of course everyone wants to learn a language with native speakers but what will happen if we know nothing about it? When learning a new language or whatsoever, we need a basis. This basis helps us know how the language works and from which we will have targets to reach. Notice that every foreign language center has native speakers on behalf of tutors. |
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Blue_Snow I'm here quite often ;-)

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#11 (permalink) Mon May 03, 2010 7:25 am English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| Blue_Snow wrote: |
| Of course everyone wants to learn a language with native speakers but what will happen if we know nothing about it? When learning a new language or whatsoever, we need a basis. This basis helps us know how the language works and from which we will have targets to reach. Notice that every foreign language center has native speakers on behalf of tutors. |
Ok, BS. That's your opinion and I have mine. I think if I could start to learn English from A in England or the US I would have been to Z and mastered English as native speakers. Thanks anyway. JLTS _________________ Learning English is just for good |
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#12 (permalink) Tue May 04, 2010 6:54 am English Grammar sentence help!? |
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BS, I really don't like to call you an idiot. Anyway, watch you words, kid! You don't have the right to scold me!
If I didn't have some friends form Vietnam, I would think Boy! Every Vietnamese is a bad mouth one! |
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#13 (permalink) Tue May 04, 2010 8:03 am English Grammar sentence help!? |
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Hello guys Let's have a friendly atmosphere. Please...! _________________ Who dares to teach must never cease to learn. -John Cotton Dana |
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Richard I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#14 (permalink) Tue May 04, 2010 8:48 am English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| I agree with Richard. |
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#15 (permalink) Tue May 04, 2010 10:54 am English Grammar sentence help!? |
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| Pasban110 wrote: |
BS, I really don't like to call you an idiot. Anyway, watch you words, kid! You don't have the right to scold me!
If I didn't have some friends form Vietnam, I would think Boy! Every Vietnamese is a bad mouth one! |
I am very sorry, Pasban. I am a Vietnamese, too. :-) Regards, JLTS _________________ Learning English is just for good |
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