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 #2 (permalink) Wed Apr 28, 2010 19:52 pm Verb + to/for |
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Try "for".
How are you keeping VW. This is your third name in as many weeks.
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| #3 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:02 am Verb + to/for |
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| Can we use no prep in the first sentence? My teacher said that in the second one we must use To because gift is give's equivalent noun and give requires To. Was he wrong? |
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| #4 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:30 am Verb + to/for |
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No, BS. The first sentence as it stands is incorrect, though instead of adding 'for' to the end, you could rephrase it:
"It is/was for her husband that she bought the souvenir."
or, simplest and most straightforward of all,
"She bought the souvenir for her husband."
Regards, 'gift' - Maybe you misunderstood your teacher.
"To gift" = to give (freely) - a verb
"A gift" = a present or donation - a noun. No 'to' is required.
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| #5 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:53 am Verb + to/for |
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| No I didn't misunderstand. I kept asking him many times. It's a gift....me. In this sentence. i think a prep is required. |
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| #6 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:55 am Verb + to/for |
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Hi,
I think "It's a gift TO you." is OK.
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| #7 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:16 am Verb + to/for |
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Hi Morteza,
I am afraid you have to say "It's a gift FOR you." to the receiver when you hand it over. |
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| #8 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:57 am Verb + to/for |
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| This is a typical situation Haihao. I wanted to say that I got the gift from an unknown person surprisingly and I didn't know whether it was mine or not. Then, the mailman said "It's a gift to you". I've been wondering that thing. |
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| #9 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:58 am Verb + to/for |
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| I agree with Haihao San. It's odd to say "It's a gift TO you", which I've never seen. |
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| #10 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 21:27 pm Verb + to/for |
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Hi Mr Takashiro,
It's nice to see you again!
The above sentence is supposed to be between a gift giver and the recipient. Then, for is necessary and it expresses a sense of purpose of the gift or denotation of the beneficiary.
To suggests a direction to the recipient if used as in "It's a gift to you". It's possible for a "complete third party" to utter such an expression, but we can hardly imagine a "complete mailman" would actually use it because it is not suitable for him to take the excrescent responsibility of mail identification (about which he doesn't even have an idea), at least here in Japan. |
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| #11 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 22:11 pm Verb + to/for |
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| Blue_Snow wrote: |
| This is a typical situation Haihao. I wanted to say that I got the gift from an unknown person surprisingly and I didn't know whether it was mine or not. Then, the mailman said "It's a gift to you". I've been wondering that thing. |
He should have said, "It's a gift for you."
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| #12 (permalink) Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:30 am Verb + to/for |
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| Oh my God. I'm getting crazy. So, to sum up, a gift for is the best for all purposes? |
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| #13 (permalink) Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:50 am Verb + to/for |
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| No, "a gift to" is possible but not for the case you provided with the "mailman". Cf. "This place is a gift to people who love music." |
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| #14 (permalink) Fri Apr 30, 2010 19:40 pm Verb + to/for |
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Or, "My writing is my gift to the world."
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| #15 (permalink) Sat May 01, 2010 6:17 am Verb + to/for |
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| To sum up, to or for is dependent on what we imply? It's exciting though rather complica'. |
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