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#2 (permalink) Fri Apr 30, 2010 19:48 pm taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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It depends on the context. It might mean that something is obvious without any need for proof. "Is this forum helpful? We can take that for granted!" "That night will follow day can be taken for granted."
Or it could mean that someone was unappreciative of something/someone. "The boss took Tim for granted, until Tim was off work sick and several jobs didn't get done." _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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Beeesneees Language Coach

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#3 (permalink) Sat May 01, 2010 17:39 pm taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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| Day and night but night then day again. I really don't know why night must follow day not precede. It's just our settings for it. Man uses what he likes to treat nature. |
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Blue_Snow I'm here quite often ;-)

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#4 (permalink) Sat May 01, 2010 18:26 pm taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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That's very philosophical BS... it doesn't change the meaning - or the example, though. I could just as easily have reversed it, and next time I use the expression, I will... just for you ;) _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#5 (permalink) Sat May 01, 2010 18:56 pm taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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| Are you an American? I'm sure you're not English. |
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Blue_Snow I'm here quite often ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Sat May 01, 2010 20:01 pm taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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'No' to both suggestions. I'm British though. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#8 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 3:21 am taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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| Oh sorry, I've never known such an English PERSON as you, Bee. For Torsten, I think I should add the word Person after such adjectives. You know, my teacher usually calls me a slough(I'm not sure whether this word is correct. It refers to an animal that's very lazy and everything it does can only described as SLOWLY)because I always try to use as many abbreviations and word omissions, which can still make sense, as possible. |
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Blue_Snow I'm here quite often ;-)

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#9 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 9:48 am taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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The animal is a 'sloth' BS. Torsten is correct to make the distinction... would you say, "Are you a French?" "Are you a Spanish?" "Are you an English?". The same rule applies to 'American' when talking about a native of the country.
As I said above, I'm British but not English: I was born in Britain, of British parents, and as far back in time as it is possible to track the lineage, both my maternal and paternal families were British too (some of them would have been English). I have lived in Britain all my life and I am a native English speaker. My passport confirms I am a British citizen, born and raised in Britain. I am a white caucasian. But I am not English. Is that a puzzle? :)
I am curious though. Why did you think I might be American, but not British? _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#10 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 10:01 am taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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Hi, Beeesneees
Were you born in Bonny Scotland? _________________ Slow but sure. |
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#11 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 10:12 am taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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No, Geo. I am not Scottish. :) _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#12 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 10:18 am taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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| Hi Bee. I said so just because your characteristics and ways of talking don't look like the real British's ones. You're not English because you weren't born in England. Maybe it's Wales or somewhere else. |
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#13 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 10:38 am taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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Hi Bee. I said so just because your characteristics and ways of talking don't look like the real British's ones.
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Excuse me, but I am 'real British'. I was born of an English speaking family, and educated in English speaking establishments. What is the difference between my characteristics and ways of writing and that of other British people? I just consider myself to have my own writing style and character. It doesn't make me any less British. (I'm not annoyed that you have made the distinction, just curious as to what you think is a 'real British' style.)
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Ardderchog, BS. Rydych chi'n iawn. Cymraes ydw i. / Excellent, BS. You are correct. I am Welsh. (But my first language is English. I didn't speak any Welsh until I was a teenager, and I have only begin to learn to speak it with any degree of fluency in the past few years - I'm still very much a learner.) _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#14 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 10:42 am taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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Cardiff is the capital of your country. _________________ Slow but sure. |
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Geo777 I'm here quite often ;-)

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#15 (permalink) Sun May 02, 2010 10:43 am taken for granted' ...meaning please |
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BS beat you to it, Geo, but you have worked it out. I live about 30 miles from Cardiff. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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