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#2 (permalink) Sun May 30, 2010 20:24 pm A question to be answered ( If you boil the water ...) |
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| I would choose "will turn." |
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#3 (permalink) Sun May 30, 2010 20:46 pm A question to be answered ( If you boil the water ...) |
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| I wonder if "If you boil φ water" would be better. |
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Haihao I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Sun May 30, 2010 21:12 pm A question to be answered ( If you boil the water ...) |
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Haihao, that depends on the situation.
If I am referring specifically to water you have in a pot, for instance, "the" makes perfect sense.
If I am speaking about the general characteristics of water, it is appropriate to omit "the." |
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#5 (permalink) Sun May 30, 2010 21:23 pm A question to be answered ( If you boil the water ...) |
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I suspect the one word answer is 'turns' Scientifically, I suppose it would be 'If you boil the water it evaporates into steam,' though in that case I'd say that 'into steam' is superfluous to requirements. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#6 (permalink) Sun May 30, 2010 22:15 pm A question to be answered ( If you boil the water ...) |
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Thank you both, but I'd still feel that "If you boil the water, it will turn into steam." sounds like there is a possibility that other water or some water may not turn into steam even if you boil it. I mean, "boiling water 100% turns into steam" is too common a truth and fact to allow any particular water to take "the" to be turned into steam by boiling.
But I am sure "If you boil the water, it will turn into steam." is perfect such as "the water" in a pot is demonstrated by a teacher or anyone, of course. Sorry for the rubbish. |
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#7 (permalink) Sun May 30, 2010 22:41 pm A question to be answered ( If you boil the water ...) |
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The sentence probably isn't the best sort of sentence to use to illustrate the difference between a zero conditional and a first conditional, but I would tend to use a first conditional if the sentence contained 'the water' rather than just 'water':
1st conditional: If you boil the water (e.g. the water in a particular pot), it will turn to steam and the pot will eventually be empty.
zero conditional: If you boil water (i.e. any water), it turns to steam.
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#8 (permalink) Mon May 31, 2010 5:08 am A question to be answered ( If you boil the water ...) |
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Yes, I thought that also,and I wanted to make sure I am right.
When I say "The water" I mean a pot of water f.
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I suspect the one word answer is 'turns' Scientifically, I suppose it would be 'If you boil the water it evaporates into steam,' though in that case I'd say that 'into steam' is superfluous to requirements. |
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But we can also say : If you had boiled the water , it would have evaporated when talking about a pot or a certain situation. so I think this and that are alike. _________________ "There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error....."
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| what does "at all" means here? | Which one is correct? |