even so vs. even though

[Take_It_Easy]

Even so, even though I'm so confused to use these, as I dont know which one is which, can you explain the differences between these phrases, thanks.

[Beeesneees]

We use 'even though' as an alternative to 'though' or 'although' when the ideas expressed appear more extreme or surprising:

Even though over a week has passed since the earthquake struck, the authorities have stated that it may still be possible to find survivors under the rubble.

They made me feel as if I was one of the family, even though I'd never met any of them before.

Even so is an adverb and is used for introducing a statement that seems surprising after what has been said before.

This time she has kept her promises faithfully. Even so, I don't really trust her.

I know you have good vocabulary, but, even so, you should use a dictionary.

There is more information here.
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[Mister Micawber]

Cambridge says this:

even so = despite what has just been said.
I had a terrible headache, but even so, I went to the concert.
An immediate interest cut might give a small boost to the economy. Even so, any recovery is likely to be very slow.

even though = although.
Even though he left school at 16, he still managed to become prime minister.

Notice that 'even though' is conjunctive: it needs a succeeding clause.
Notice that 'even so' is interjective: it stands alone as a comment in the sentence.
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[Mister Micawber]

Oops! I was searching while you were typing, BN. Sorry.
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[Take_It_Easy]

just one more thing:

I know you have good vocabulary, but, even so, you should use a dictionary. - in this case, could 'even so' be replaced by tho?

I know you have good vocabulary, tho you should use a dictionary. - does it make sense?

[Beeesneees]

Informally in speech you could get away with that. In writing the sentence would usually be rearranged:

"Although you have good vocabulary, you should use a dictionary."

As a rule of thumb, never use 'tho' as an abbreviated form except in the most informal of crcumstances.

MM - no need for apologies. These things happen all the time, besides, your post added clarity as far as I can see.
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[Take_It_Easy]

Dear BS,

Nowadays I have more informal situations than before, so I should pick up how people speak here in the UK I don't intend to speak as a dictionary anymore.

I know 'although' is grammatically accepted, but I dont want be too formal as I had many problems at the past related to it. Although I always make an effort to speak correctly, I also try to notice my mistakes and sometimes I succeed to correct myself. please overlook me If I make any mistakes..

[Mordant]

Take It Easy, I use "although" in speech all the time. I frankly do not care whether people find it overly formal. :-)

[Haihao]

"even if" may say (s)he wants to join in.

[Beeesneees]

I agree with Mordant, TIE.

'Although' isn't particularly formal. It is correct.

Do I understand you correctly? Are you asking us to ignore any mistakes you make?
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[Take_It_Easy]

Nope, on the contrary, I would be the happiest person if you corrected me when you feel, I make a serious grammatical mistake. Cheers.

In the matter of Although, I never hear that, British people use it a lot. The thing is I used to use "although" but I try to use those words or phrases which are really new to me.

[Mister Micawber]

'Cheers' in the middle of your utterance seems very odd to me, TIE. It is a complimentary closing.

And I don't understand the sentence that follows: what does 'that' represent? 'I don't hear that' and 'British people use it a lot' seem to contradict each other.
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[Take_It_Easy]

I never hear British people would use it a lot. - does it make more sense?
so According to you, is " that' unnecessary in this context? Sorry about cheers, that's just a bad habit, I should get rid of that.

[Mister Micawber]

Ah, I see. Try this: "In the matter of 'although', I don't hear British people using it a lot / very much." (You cannot use 'that' in this structure.)
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[Take_It_Easy]

oh yeah, It's more logical, indeed, thanks a lot!