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Using "them" instead of "they" Mon Dec 19, 2005 14:10 pm  Using "them" instead of "they"
 

I would not say that I am a beginner at all, but when talking to some people here in the US, i got so confused with the using of "them" for example:
I had a meeting with them guys in their garage!!!
Can you explain the using of them in this sentence?
Thanks
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Using "them" instead of "they" Tue Dec 20, 2005 18:50 pm  Using "them" instead of "they"
 

Hi Maryawilma,

"Them" is an object pronoun. As an object pronoun, it can come after a verb as an object of the verb, or after a preposition as an object of the preposition or after the verb BE.

Example:
Tell them your story.
I had a meeting with them guys in their garage yesterday.
It's them.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any problem.

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Using "them" instead of "they" Mon Jan 30, 2006 18:34 pm  Using "them" instead of "they"
 

maryawilma wrote:
I would not say that I am a beginner at all, but when talking to some people here in the US, I get so confused with the use of "them" for example:
I had a meeting with them guys in their garage!!!
Can you explain the use of them in this sentence?
Thanks

Let me just add something to Hieu’s fine explanation.

'Them guys’ is informal or colloquial American speech.

Personally, I would say ‘with them’ only or 'with those people'. 'Them' is a pronoun and shouldn't be used with a noun really.

Whereas in American English 'guys' means a group of men and/or women, in British English it is used for men only (like 'blokes'), as far as I know.
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Using "them" instead of "they" Tue Mar 07, 2006 13:22 pm  Using "them" instead of "they"
 

"Them guys" is not correct, standard English, but is said in some colloquial dialects in both the US and the UK. People think it sounds low-class and uneducated. The standard expression is "those guys", although "guy" is an informal word.

Conchita, in US English, "guy" also usually refers to a man or boy, and ""guys" refers to men or boys. The only exception is with the expression "you guys". When I was a child, "you guys" could be used only when addressing males. However, in the northern US, we don't have a plural form of "you", so in the colloquial language "you guys" has filled the gap and can now be used with men or women. In non-standard, spoken language, some people even make it possessive, as "yer guys" or "yer guys's". You can hear this possessive form a lot in the movie Napoleon Dynamite.
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