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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #1 (permalink) Mon Dec 26, 2005 18:36 pm   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

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ESL/EFL Test #85 "Simple Present (2)", question 5

But you must remember that two years ago the two main characters hadn't met, which was surprising when you consider the close ......... of Andrew's cottage and Sally's.

(a) approximation
(b) proximity
(c) standing
(d) placing

English Language Tests, Intermediate level

ESL/EFL Test #85 "Simple Present (2)", answer 5

But you must remember that two years ago the two main characters hadn't met, which was surprising when you consider the close proximity of Andrew's cottage and Sally's.

Correct answer: (b) proximity
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Isn't 'close proximity' a redundancy, or is it an idiomatic expression?

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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #2 (permalink) Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:03 am   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

Yes, you are right on both counts, Conchita-- it is redundant, and it is a fixed expression. There are many of these in the language, and they are used for stress: a large fortune, aid and abet, etc.
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Expressions #3 (permalink) Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:46 pm   Expressions
 

Thank you for your prompt reply. I'm new here and not at all used to getting such a quick reaction (we normally go at a slower pace in Spain!), never mind one at all. On top of this I've learned a new expression: aid and abet.
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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #4 (permalink) Tue Dec 27, 2005 17:32 pm   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

1) To me "when you consider the close proximity of the cottage of Andrew and Sally" sounds more natural.

2) "Tautology" is another good word for "redundancy"
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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #5 (permalink) Tue Dec 27, 2005 20:01 pm   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

Ahmadov wrote:
1) To me "when you consider the close proximity of the cottage of Andrew and Sally" sounds more natural.

2) "Tautology" is another good word for "redundancy"


Hi,

Bear in mind that what you have written suggests there is only one cottage but there are two!

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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #6 (permalink) Tue Dec 27, 2005 20:12 pm   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

WOW, what a good point! I really missed that...
Hmmmm, however, doesn't this imply that there are two cottages when you speak about proximity? Well, I am not arguing, it is your native language and you have been teaching this language for many years, but cann't this argument change your mind?
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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #7 (permalink) Tue Dec 27, 2005 20:16 pm   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

...or how about "the close proximity of Andrew's and Sally's cottages"?
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Proximity #8 (permalink) Tue Dec 27, 2005 21:08 pm   Proximity
 

Hi,

To be honest, I'm quite happy with what I wrote in the first place:

the close ......... of Andrew's cottage and Sally's.

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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #9 (permalink) Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:44 am   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

Hello Alan,

I think it is becoming clearer to me why you prefer that version.
Thank you for being patient.

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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #10 (permalink) Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:11 pm   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

But you must remember that two years ago the two main characters hadn't met...
why not: didn't meet?
or both are acceptable and why?
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Idiomatic expression: close proximity #11 (permalink) Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:33 pm   Idiomatic expression: close proximity
 

'Didn't meet' refers to that one day 2 years ago: September 23rd, 2009.
'Hadn't met' refers to any time on or before that date.
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