Who Whom and Whose

[Kai Felrose]

Hello,

I wonder if someone could help me with this confusion of mine. As we already know that the usage of who whom and whose will depends on the pronoun that related to the sentence either, subject, object or possessive pronoun. For example:

He doesn't know who the boss of the company is. [subject of the indirect question]
I don't care whom you invite. [object of the indirect question]
She isn't sure whose car that is. ["Whose" shows possession of car.]

Now still here's the problem, I still cannot figure what to use on the following sentence:
A treasures is a person ... in charge with with of funds or revenues, receipt, care, and disbursement of money.

Help me...

Thanks

Best Regards

Kai F.

[Beeesneees]

A treasurer is a person who is in charge of funds or revenues, including the receipt, care, and disbursement of money.
A treasurer is a person who takes charge of funds or revenues, including the receipt, care, and disbursement of money.
A person who takes charge of funds or revenues, receipt, care, and disbursement of money is called a 'treasurer'.
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[Kai Felrose]

I am sorry, but what I mean to ask is the pronoun that should be used on the respective sentence.
So to speak, in this sentence below:
"A treasures is a person ... (who, whom, or whose) in charge with with of funds or revenues, receipt, care, and disbursement of money."

My question is which pronoun would fit the best for the sentence?

Also what is the different between 'the whole new thing' and 'the new whole thing'?

[Mordant]

That sentence requires "who" and the finite verb "is."

"Whose" is a possessive pronoun or adjective, and there is nothing to possess here.

"Whom" is an object pronoun, and you need the subject pronoun because the pronoun is performing the action and not receiving it.

A treasurer is a person who is in charge of receipt, care and disbursement of money.

Compare with "He is in charge." Nominative case, pronoun is performing an act

If it is committing an act or directly precedes a finite verb, "who" is required.

I omitted "funds" because it is redundant. You are saying "in charge of funds ... of money." "Receipt, care and disbursement of money" certainly makes it clear that the person is in charge of funds anyway.

If it is a direct, indirect or prepositional object, "whom" is required.

He is the one whom I put in charge of funds. - Direct object, pronoun is receiving and not committing action
"I put him in charge of funds." - Objective case for same reasons
He is the one whom I gave the money. - Indirect object
I gave him the money. - Indirect object
That is the man whom I spoke to. - Prepositional object
I spoke to him. - Objective case, prepositional object

I will speak with whoever can solve my problems. - Although "whoever" occurs after a preposition, we use the nominative form because it directly precedes a finite verb, which means it is committing an act.

I will speak with whomever I wish. - Plain prepositional object, no different from "That is the man whom I spoke to."

Do you know whoever is supposed to help me solve my problems? - Although "whoever" receives the action, we use the nominative case because it precedes a main verb. He (not him) is supposed to help me solve my problems.

I bet I know whomever you know. - Plain direct object, no different from "I know him."

"Who" is to "whom" as "he" is to "him."

"Whose" belongs to the same group as "his," and they can be subjects and objects.

I know whose you want. - "Whose" is something that belongs to someone.
I know his (mother), but I don't know yours. - "His" and "yours" belong to him and you.

Whose (possessive adjective) child ran way? -
I know whose ran away. - The child belongs to someone.
His ran away. - The child belongs to him.

[Mordant]

"A whole new thing" sounds like a very informal way of saying "something entirely different from what we have mentioned or are used to."

Oh, you're talking about dial-up Internet. DSL is a whole new thing. - Let's pretend that conversation happened at least 10 years ago. lol

I was pampered as a child, so doing all these chores around the house is a whole new thing.

"A new whole thing" is something I've never come across before. It sounds like a botched attempt at "a whole new thing." In order to be justified as written, it would have to mean "something that is both complete and also new." Don't ask me for a situation that calls for that unless you want something laughable.

I just made this bun, and no one has taken a bite yet. It's a new whole thing.

In other words, avoid it. lol

[Kai Felrose]

Wow, I see...

Thank you very much Mr. Mordant

[Alan]

Hi Kai Felrose,

As I understand it, in your sentence: