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as...so #1 (permalink) Tue Jul 13, 2010 18:21 pm   as...so
 

could anyone please help me with the structure of As.....so (please note that the sentence is beginning with 'As'). please mention the correct punctuation too.
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as...so #2 (permalink) Wed Jul 14, 2010 0:17 am   as...so
 

Please give us your example sentence, and we will check it for you.
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as...so #3 (permalink) Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:24 am   as...so
 

please check these sentences:

As he is late today so we'll mark him absent.

As one doesn't realize one's fault without experience, so we'll give few chances.

Will the 'so's be omitted?
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as...so #4 (permalink) Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:32 am   as...so
 

You need either "as" or "so" here, but using both is incorrect.

As he is late today, we'll mark him absent.
He is late today, so we'll mark him absent.

As one doesn't realize one's faults without experience, we'll give a few chances.
One doesn't realize one's faults without experience, so we'll give a few chances.


The "as" in the first sentence of each pair means "because," or "for the reason that."
"So" in the second of each pair means "therefore," or "for that reason."

That means your sentence could be rewritten as "For the reason that one doesn't realize one's faults without experience, we'll give a few chances for that reason." You can probably tell that that is off.

"So" and "as" are used together as a conjunction correctly in the sentence below. It means "in order to."

He lied to his mother about his health so as to comfort her.

Note that "few" usually means something is insufficient or that you're emphasizing scantness. "A few" also means there is not a lot, but it is less likely to indicate or stress insufficiency by itself.

We must give few pardons when it comes to breaking the law. - Intentionally spare and harsh. We are pleading for less or little leniency.

We must give a few pardons when it comes to breaking the law. - This sounds as if we were pleading for more leniency. Perhaps the system is too harsh.

In order to give "a few" the sense of "few," we could modify it with "only," which of course stresses insufficiency.

We must give only a few pardons when it comes to breaking the law.

This sentence is now equivalent to my first law sentence.
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as...so #5 (permalink) Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:53 am   as...so
 

The 'so' is incorrect in those sentences.
As he is late today, we'll mark him absent. (There are two schools of thought on the comma. Some would add it where I have, others would omit it completely.)
As he is late today then we'll mark him absent.
As one doesn't realize one's faults without experience, we'll give him a few chances.
As one doesn't realize one's faults without experience then we'll give him a few chances.

An 'as... so' structure is used very rarely, and even where it is used the 'so' isn't usually necessary, it merely adds a slight poetic touch
As the man coughed louder, so his face grew redder /As the man coughed louder his face grew redder.
As the snow fell harder so the drifts grew deeper / As the snow fell harder the drifts grew deeper.
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as...so #6 (permalink) Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:01 am   as...so
 

Note that the "as" in Bees' last two examples does not mean "because." It means "while."

This raises another point. Some dislike the use of "as" for "because" because it can be ambiguous.

As the man coughed violently, we insisted that he see a doctor.

In that sentence, "as" can mean "while" or "because." It's not clear.
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as...so #7 (permalink) Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:47 pm   as...so
 

Thanks to all...!
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