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#17 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:26 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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Yes !!! _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Present Simple |
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Alan Co-founder

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#18 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:30 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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| Lol at both Alan and Tofu. |
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Mordant Language Coach
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#19 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:42 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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I tried calling him, but... What did the speaker did, then? |
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Tofu I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#20 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:47 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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What did the speaker do?
He picked up the receiver handset and dialled the number. He heard a busy (engaged) tone. He replaced the handset. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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Beeesneees Language Coach

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#21 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:49 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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Hello Mordant and Alan and Bev
This topic piqued my curiosity, I didn't think it was so complicated. Can we sum up the usages of "try + ing" and "try + to" with this example?
A: I tried to get rid of the vermin in my house, but to no avail! B: What did you do to that end? A: I tried setting up traps all over the house to get rid of them. B: Try buying an expensive poison, it should help.
Thanks! _________________ If it's not easy, don't do it!
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Our Tort System I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#22 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:58 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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| Beeesneees wrote: |
What did the speaker do?
He picked up the receiver handset and dialled the number. He heard a busy (engaged) tone. He replaced the handset. |
Thank you, B.
- I tried to call him, but... - I tried calling him, but... No difference? |
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Tofu I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#23 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 13:03 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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No difference. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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Beeesneees Language Coach

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#24 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 13:07 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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I tried to call her, but I couldn't find my cell phone. This sentence doesn't make sense, doesn't it? |
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Tofu I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#25 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 13:13 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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It does make sense if that was the only phone available to the speaker.
I can understand your confusion here. To be more accurate, the sentence ought to be 'I meant to call her' but lots of native speakers would use 'tried' in the sense of 'meaning to', and the phrase is perfectly understood in this way.
'I tried to call her' in this instance would mean the speaker thought about calling her, decided he would call her at that point, looked for his phone to call her but couldn't find it, so failed in his attempt. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#26 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 13:26 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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| Oh, no. My confusion is growing bigger and bigger. |
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Tofu I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#27 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 13:39 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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Tofu, try to make a post.
Now, if you successfully reply, does that mean you didn't try? |
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Mordant Language Coach
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#28 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 13:43 pm "try to do something" and "try doing something" |
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Hi Tofu,
You seem to be leading everyone a merry dance. What is there about 'try to call someone' that you find so hard to grasp?
Alan _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story Progressive Forms |
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Alan Co-founder

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