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#2 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 14:44 pm Articles with proper names |
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| I have heard that sort of thing only in crime show investigations. For the purposes of standard English, it should be avoided. |
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Mordant Language Coach
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#3 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 14:49 pm Articles with proper names |
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Hello Mordant,
Many thanks for chiming in!
Can you think of a sentence where an indefinite article is used with a proper name in standard English, or is such use prohibited? _________________ If it's not easy, don't do it!
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#4 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 14:52 pm Articles with proper names |
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A: I have never known anyone named Jessica. B: I am certain you have known a Jessica. It is a common name.
I would rewrite your first sentence as "A license plate check traced this car to a man named Kenneth Johnson." |
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#5 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 15:21 pm Articles with proper names |
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Thanks, Mordant! By the way, I always hear the verb "to come back" in crime shows, such as the Cops or CSI or Law and Order. I think they say "The fingerprints came back (to) Kurt" or "The DNA came back John".
Does it sound normal, or sloppy and I'm better off with the verb 'trace', as in: "They traced the fingerprints to Kurt" or "They traced the DNA to John"? _________________ If it's not easy, don't do it!
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#6 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 15:44 pm Articles with proper names |
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It sounds sloppy because it's confusing. In writing, it will appear that you mistakenly omitted a comma in an attempt to convey something else. In speech, it will sound as if you meant something else. This is for people unfamiliar with this style of informal language, of course. Everything has its time and place.
The fingerprints came back, Kurt.
It will look or sound like that. It seems that you are trying to share information with Kurt.
Your last two sentences are far better in broader use. |
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#7 (permalink) Mon Jul 19, 2010 19:35 pm Articles with proper names |
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Thanks Mordant! I see why my use of "come back to" looks suspect and ambiguous. _________________ If it's not easy, don't do it!
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