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He appeared = he seemed.
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I would suggest 'supported' is missing.
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| #3 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:32 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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He appeared this morning to support her and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance.
Does He appeared mean "he seemed"? |
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| #4 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:09 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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No, I think Alan must have looked at the phrase without reading the context, because in other contexts that is the correct definition.
In this case it means he turned up (in court).
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| #5 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:15 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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Thank you, B.
...and he has appeared each and every time that she's had a court appearance.
The word left out is "appeared," isn't it? |
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| #6 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:36 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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Clearly 'he appeared in court' has usually the sense of making an appearance in court and presenting yourself there. The wording however isn't very clear in this sentence because 'this morning' comes immediately after 'he appeared' and also 'he has' comes after 'to support.'
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| #7 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:39 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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It doesn't mean making a formal appearance in court. It means he turned up in court, to support her (his daughter - the person making a formal appearance).
'he has done so each time' might clarify that phrase 'he has' but the rest of the meaning is obvious, even without looking at the full source.
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| #8 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:46 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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Very confusing. Can I start from square one?
"He appeared this morning to support her and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance."
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| #9 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:47 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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Hi,
This isn't in fact what I said:
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| It doesn't mean making a formal appearance in court. |
I still maintain that the wording isn't clear even though it's obvious to you.
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| #10 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:25 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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Hi Tofu,
I'm not surprised you are confused! My suggestion:
He was in court this morning in order to support her and he has supported her each and every time that she's had a court appearance.
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| #11 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:29 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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Thank you, Alan.
He was in court this morning in order to support her and he has supported her each and every time that she's had a court appearance.
Does he has supported her imply his appearance in court? |
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| #12 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:34 am ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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My word, Tofu you are certainly a stickler for accuracy.
OK let's say: and thus he has supported her (implying that his appearance was his way of supporting her)
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| #13 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 18:36 pm ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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| Kind of disappointing that you call me that, Alan. |
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| #14 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 19:35 pm ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi,
This isn't in fact what I said:
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| It doesn't mean making a formal appearance in court. |
I still maintain that the wording isn't clear even though it's obvious to you.
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I didn't in fact indicate that this was what you said.
The term 'appearance'when it relates to matters of court is ambiguous, as it can so easily imply an appearance in the dock or in the witness box. I thought that Tofu might have been misled in this way and I was trying to clarify that this was not its meaning here.
Tofu provided the link to the whole article. When placed back in context, the wording of this sentence is much clearer.
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| #15 (permalink) Wed Jul 21, 2010 19:39 pm ...and he has each and every time that she's had a court appearance |
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| Kind of disappointing that you call me that, Alan. |
Being 'a stickler for accuracy' isn't necessarily a bad thing, Tofu. I would describe you in such a way too.
It simply means that you want to be absolutely certain of the facts, with no possibility of errors.
You want the details to be right - you want to understand things exactly.
Back to the text:
He appeared (at the court) this morning to support her, just as he has (been there to support her) every previous time she has been in court.
In other words, every time she's had an official court appearance, he has turned up to show his support for her. His 'support' is probably to be there so that his daughter knows she can rely on him and so that the people watching her story know he hasn't turned his back on her.
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