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 #2 (permalink) Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:38 am Difference between other and another |
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| There are ten pieces of fruit in my basket. One is an orange, one is a grape and the other is an apple. |
And my question would be: Isn't the phrase 'the other' in the second sentence implying that there are only three pieces of fruit in the basket, not ten. It sounds like the end of the list to me.
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Conchita
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| #3 (permalink) Fri Jan 13, 2006 22:40 pm Difference between other and another |
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Dear Kathy,
Like Conchita pointed out already, in that sentence "the other" implies that there were only three fruits, not ten. "Another" implies that out of the varieties of pieces of fruit, one of them was an apple.If you say another in that sentence, there is an understanding that there are other fruits in that basket.
Now the difference bettwen "another" and "other" (notice, not "the other") is....
Another: A other or AN other part. usually, when you need to say A or AN before OTHER, you say another. |
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| #4 (permalink) Thu Apr 13, 2006 16:13 pm Illogical sequence in number 1 |
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Unfortunately, this is an example of a poor and illogical sequence that even a native speaker would have difficulty comprehending.
To first say, “There are ten pieces of fruit...” and then say, “One is an orange, one is a grape.....” would imply that the rest were apples because we are talking about pieces of fruit. Therefore, the second sentence should logically read, “One is an orange, one is a grape and ......... ARE apples,” in which case the answer would be “the others,” because we mean the remaining eight, which are the apples.
If we are speaking of varieties, then the first sentence needs to be changed to read, “There are three fruits,” or “There are three varieties of fruit....”
I suggest that question number 1 either be revised or omitted from this test. |
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| #5 (permalink) Thu Apr 13, 2006 17:10 pm Illogical sequence in number 1 |
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| EJW wrote: |
Unfortunately, this is an example of a poor and illogical sequence that even a native speaker would have difficulty comprehending.
To first say, “There are ten pieces of fruit...” and then say, “One is an orange, one is a grape.....” would imply that the rest were apples because we are talking about pieces of fruit. Therefore, the second sentence should logically read, “One is an orange, one is a grape and ......... ARE apples,” in which case the answer would be “the others,” because we mean the remaining eight, which are the apples.
If we are speaking of varieties, then the first sentence needs to be changed to read, “There are three fruits,” or “There are three varieties of fruit....”
I suggest that question number 1 either be revised or omitted from this test. |
And what if we don't want to disclose what the other seven pieces of fruit are? Or only want to enumerate three of them? And why should the rest necessarily be apples? |
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| #6 (permalink) Thu Apr 02, 2009 17:26 pm need HELP with Other, Others, the other, the others |
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need HELP with another,Other,Others,the other,the others and some others!!
Even I've test in English Grammar Test, Elementary Level # 56 (about Other, another, others, the others) many times but i've still not clearly understood them well.
The questions in these site does not cover how to use 'other', need more example and explanation. And what's different between 'Others' and 'some others'???? |
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| #7 (permalink) Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:53 am Illogical sequence in number 1 |
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| Ejw wrote: |
Unfortunately, this is an example of a poor and illogical sequence that even a native speaker would have difficulty comprehending.
To first say, “There are ten pieces of fruit...” and then say, “One is an orange, one is a grape.....” would imply that the rest were apples because we are talking about pieces of fruit. Therefore, the second sentence should logically read, “One is an orange, one is a grape and ......... ARE apples,” in which case the answer would be “the others,” because we mean the remaining eight, which are the apples.
If we are speaking of varieties, then the first sentence needs to be changed to read, “There are three fruits,” or “There are three varieties of fruit....”
I suggest that question number 1 either be revised or omitted from this test. |
Hello all... Ok, this is a pretty old thread, but I've just passed this test and had some difficulties too. It took me about 15 minutes, I think, to complete it, as I was trying to understand which of answers was correct. I passed it 10/10 and was surprised... Really, I wasn't sure if my answers were the right ones.
I agree with Ejw that it's not clear what was meant in the 1-st question... and some others. I think that some sort of explanation sentence must be added to the first one, for example: "There are ten pieces of fruit in my basket. One is an orange, one is a grape and ... is an apple. The rest of them are bananas."
This seems much more understandable. |
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| #8 (permalink) Tue May 12, 2009 19:02 pm Difference between other and another |
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| This test made me crazy, I did it several times, I know the asnwers before I see the questions, but I don't understand it clearly: other, another. I like it. |
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| #9 (permalink) Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:17 am need HELP with Other, Others, the other, the others |
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| Schwartz wrote: |
need HELP with another,Other,Others,the other,the others and some others!!
Even I've test in English Grammar Test, Elementary Level # 56 (about Other, another, others, the others) many times but i've still not clearly understood them well.
The questions in these site does not cover how to use 'other', need more example and explanation. And what's different between 'Others' and 'some others'???? |
I also have problem about above issue since long time |
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