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future #1 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 20:54 pm   future
 

hello..

what should I say

1- This team is going to win the match , they have practised well.

2- This team will win the match. they have practised well.

I expect the answer may be that both are correct but I am looking for the more accurate >
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future #2 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 21:03 pm   future
 

Hi. Neither is correct. The first combines two independent clauses with a comma and no coordinating conjunction in sight. And since team is singular, "they" does not agree. The second properly divides the sentences with a comma, but the second sentence does not begin with a capital letter. You are looking for the more accurate one.

This team is going to win the match; the players/members have practised well.
This team is going to win the match. The players/members have practised well.
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future #3 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 21:07 pm   future
 

ok thanks..

and what about the first clause I mean" will" and "going to" .. I am also looking for the more accurate one .
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future #4 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 21:10 pm   future
 

Neither is more accurate than the other. "Will" would not change the meaning. It would just make you sound vaguely less certain in your prediction.
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future #5 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 21:21 pm   future
 

Ok..

so using "going to" doesn't need an evidence ??

As we study here, In Egypt, we study that we use going to If we have an evidence..or we can say when it is a prediction that all the attendants predect ..not personal opinion to a wide extent

But as you say we use going to If we predect that something will happen even it just was a personal opinion ?
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future #6 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 21:27 pm   future
 

Neither requires evidence. Further, the quality of practice is your evidence. "Evidence" is a mass noun, by the way. The word is "predict." It is understood that it is your personal opinion, regardless of which one you choose.
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future #7 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 21:43 pm   future
 

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Further, the quality of practice is your evidence


may be .. but I have no idea about the practice of the other team..

unfortunately here they complicate the future forms and ask questions like that I asked you and ask us to choose the correct answer.. you say it depends on how I see it but I have to choose just one of them.
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future #8 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 22:17 pm   future
 

If we required solid evidence about every possible contestant or entity involved in a comparison, we would almost never use "going to" for predictions. If I understand what you have said correctly, the distinction you were taught has no real-world validity. If I had absolutely no idea about the other team, I would not use either unless this team was unusually impressive in its commitment to practice. Otherwise, I would say "This team may/could win."
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future #9 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 22:28 pm   future
 

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If I understand what you have said correctly, the distinction you were taught has no real-world validity.


It is in cases .. as I said we are taught to use it when almost all the attendants probably have the same prediction

as an example :-

The clouds are very dark . It is going to rain.

or

he is going to fail the exam . he hasn't studied at all.

And things like that..
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future #10 (permalink) Tue Oct 05, 2010 22:56 pm   future
 

How do you know that the other person even knows he hasn't studied? You are making those predictions with your own knowledge. The evidence is compelling in either case.
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