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#2 (permalink) Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:07 am have arrived vs. arrive |
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I'll give a try before anyone answers.
B. suggests one to call after he/she have arrived, which sequences the events consecutively; while A. suggests one to call when he/she arrive, which sequences the two events more or less concurrently? |
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#3 (permalink) Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:07 am have arrived vs. arrive |
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| Rickyrocky wrote: |
I'll give a try before anyone answers.
B. suggests one to call after he/she have arrived, which sequences the events consecutively; while A. suggests one to call when he/she arrive, which sequences the two events more or less concurrently? |
have/has means an activity that has happened and is true at the time of talking. Ex: "I have lost my passport" - I can't find my passport now i.e at the time of talking.
"Call me after you have arrived" - means - After the person has reached the destination.
Whereas, when we say something like "Give the key to the security when you leave" :is like giving an instruction, something that happens regularly. |
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#4 (permalink) Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:14 am have arrived vs. arrive |
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| Rickyrocky wrote: |
I'll give a try before anyone answers.
Whereas, when we say something like "Give the key to the security when you leave" :is like giving an instruction, something that happens regularly. |
which one is better in general speaking/ and what's the difference here
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#5 (permalink) Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:38 am have arrived vs. arrive |
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Answering the original question, I think there's no difference. The one with "have arrived" just sounds longer and more formal. _________________ If it's not easy, don't do it!
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#6 (permalink) Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:57 am have arrived vs. arrive |
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Hi,
The use of 'have arrived' emphasises the completion of the arriving. When you say: We have arrived, this indicates we're not travelling any more, the journey is over and we are indeed here.
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#7 (permalink) Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:42 am have arrived vs. arrive |
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anyone please care to explain this
which one is better in general speaking/ and what's the difference here
Please give me a call when you have received my e-mail / you receive my e-mail/ you get my e-mail
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#8 (permalink) Thu Nov 18, 2010 16:10 pm have arrived vs. arrive |
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According to me, "give me a call when you have received my email" - means "after you receive my email give me a call".
"have received" denotes a time after the action(i.e to receive email) has been completed.
"when you receive/get my email" - is simple present tense. This tense is commonly used to denote regular activities.
I think the case you have mentioned is the difference between British and American English. For eg, I've just had dinner - British version I just had dinner - American version(no 'have')
Just my thoughts, please correct me if I'm wrong. |
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