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Will vs. would Thu Mar 09, 2006 17:28 pm  Will vs. would
 

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ESL/EFL Test #116 "Future Tenses", question 4

He was quite definite about it and assured me he ......... come.

(a) will
(b) shall
(c) should
(d) would

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ESL/EFL Test #116 "Future Tenses", answer 4

He was quite definite about it and assured me he would come.

Correct answer: (d) would

Your answer was: incorrect
He was quite definite about it and assured me he will come.
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when can I use would and will? Why can't I use will in this question?

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Will/would Thu Mar 09, 2006 19:46 pm  Will/would
 

Hi,

This is an example of the sequence of tenses - one after the present and one after the past:

He assures me (Present) he will come

He assured (Past) he would come.

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Will/would Thu Mar 09, 2006 20:32 pm  Will/would
 

Alan wrote:
Hi,

This is an example of the sequence of tenses - one after the present and one after the past:

He assures me (Present) he will come

He assured (Past) he would come.

Alan

thanks alan
i was confosed sice long.now my allcofusion went.thanks for such anice and simple exlanation.
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will vs. would Tue May 15, 2007 10:55 am  will vs. would
 

hello sir,

a new user here:

i am not sure, but i think i've read somewhere that:
will: is used when the speaker expresses certainty
would: is used when there are some uncertainties in the statement

so in the case of this the speaker "assured" the other person that he will come.

any thoughts on this one sir?
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Will vs. would Tue May 15, 2007 11:22 am  Will vs. would
 

Hi

in the example above would is used because we cannot use will when we're talking about the future from the past.
Take a look at these:
Quote:
He assures me (Present) he will come
He assured (Past) he would come.

You're talking about a different case, namely about the conditional sentence, when we use would to describe something which is not likely to happen. Like this:
If he were hungry, he would come (probably, he is full, not starving, so he will not come, but there's still a little hope)
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Will vs. would Tue May 15, 2007 11:33 am  Will vs. would
 

Hi icemaster,

You are quite right when you say that 'will' has the sense of determination but it has to be in relation to what is said now. When you repeat what was said, you have to make the changes to the tenses and in that case it becomes: He assured me he would come. It doesn't make sense to refer to the past (he assured) and to the implied future (he will come) within the same time frame.

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Will vs. would Tue May 15, 2007 12:55 pm  Will vs. would
 

Alan wrote:
It doesn't make sense to refer to the past (he assured) and to the implied future (he will come) within the same time frame.

Alan

Hi, Alan.

The funny thing is that in Russian it makes sense Smile That's why my teacher used to tell me the stringent rule: Never use will in a subordinate clause when the main clause is in the past Smile
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will vs. would Wed May 16, 2007 1:27 am  will vs. would
 

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