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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Sat Sep 27, 2003 12:09 pm  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

Hello!

I wonder if one of you, English language experts, could help me out! A few years ago I was helping my niece with her English homework (in Portugal) and there was a phrase about "the week-end", which the girl's teacher corrected to "at the weekend". I don't remember what else it said, but in Canada where I studied and worked for 30 years, I never saw anyone write "at the weekend". We always said "on the, during the, this, next...weekend", but never "at the w/e". Since the phrase that I helped my niece write didn't say "at the w/e" the teacher marked it wrong, as well as all the other phrases that I had worked on...it was awful!!! Feel free to send me your opinion! Thanks for taking interest in my dilemma. Yours truly, Hope Melo
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At vs. On Sat Sep 27, 2003 12:09 pm  At vs. On
 

Dear Melo,

Many thanks for your email. As for the teacher who corrected your niece's work - he obviously was one of those conservative people who stick to dusted grammar rules because they are afraid of losing control and power. English is an international language spoken and used in many different parts of the world. That's why there are different versions of English - the two main ones represented by the North American standard and the British standard. Part of the differences between the two is the use of prepositions. In British English there is a tendency to use 'at' in certain combinations where Americans and Canadians use the preposition 'on'. So, an English or Irish person says 'at the weekend' while the American or Canadian says 'on the weekend'. The American might say 'in the office' whereas the British might say 'at the office'. Those differences are minor and they spice up the English language rather than complicate it. A teacher who marks 'on the weekend' as 'incorrect' (I don't like the term 'incorrect') is narrow minded and does not know that language constantly changes its purpose is communication not 'grammatical correctness'. Regards
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British vs. American English? Sat Sep 27, 2003 22:05 pm  British vs. American English?
 

So, it's a question of British or American English?
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Sat Sep 27, 2003 22:08 pm  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

Yes, British people say 'at the weekend' whereas Americans prefer 'at the weekend'. More on this topic here: The Consumer Society: The Business of Gluttony
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:58 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

There is another example I know of.
British : at the front / at the back
American : in the front / in the back
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:47 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

Hi mejcej

I think that statement is a little too general. I don't think you can say that Americans would not say "at the front/back" or that our British cousins would not say "in the front/back".

Did you have specific examples in mind?

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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:00 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

It depends on what you study ,is it American English or British English. If you are in British atmosphere, I must use at the weekend.and with American atmosphere I will use on the weekend. It's like centre and center..labour, labor,and so on.
Here is a question if I sat for IELTS, ....On or At?
If it is TOEFL,.....what will be the answer? on the week end or at the week end?
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Wed Jan 17, 2007 13:27 pm  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

Hi Sultano

Yes, I agree that Americans say "on the weekend" and not "at the weekend".

I would expect a good test of English to accept both prepostions.

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at the front / at the back v.s. in the front / in the back Wed Jan 17, 2007 14:32 pm  at the front / at the back v.s. in the front / in the back
 

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Hi mejcej

I think that statement is a little too general. I don't think you can say that Americans would not say "at the front/back" or that our British cousins would not say "in the front/back".

Did you have specific examples in mind?

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Hi,

I have taken a closer look at this problem and must admit that my
previous statement was a little bit superficial and maybe too general
in this case. Let me put it right.
My contribution was based on information from the English Grammar in Use, Appendix 7, American English, which clearly says there is a different usage of prepositions between AmE and BrE.
I'd better write down exactly what the EGU says:

British: at the front / at the back (of a group etc.): Let's sit at the front (of the cinema).
American: in the front / in the back (of a group etc.): Let's sit in the front (of the movie theater).

The part of the book which is the Appendix 7 referring to, on the other hand says:

in the front / in the back of a car: I was sitting in the back (of the car) when we crashed.
at the front / at the back of a building / theatre / group of people etc. : The garden is at the back of the house. Let's sit at the front (of the cinema). We were at the back, so we couldn't see very well.

Bearing in mind that the latter part as the book itself refers predominantly to British English, I would like to avoid causing any further confusion over this maybe only a minor question. So how relevant this information in Appendix 7 is and what has led the authors to publish it?
I am sure that you are familiar with this grammar book so maybe we could discuss this problematical issue one more time. It might help us, the English learners to be more conscious of what materials we read or learn from, as well as it could encourage us to search and investigate more sources before forming a firm opinion.

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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:59 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

Special care should be taken with standard Canadian English, though, as it is NOT the same as US (or UK) English. Sometimes it follows US conventions (e.g. 'on the weekend' rather than 'at the weekend'), but at other times it follows British conventions (e.g. 'in hospital' rather than 'in the hospital'). Canadians use spellings like 'labour', 'centre', 'travelling', and 'analyse' (like the Brits)...but also 'organize' and 'jail' (like the Americans). Some of these inconsistencies are due to historical reasons (banking terminology/expressions are often influenced by standard UK English, whereas automotive terminology/expressions are influenced by US English). Even within Canada, there is sometimes a lack of consensus over which forms to use. The best advice would be to make an educated guess but be tentative about it.
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:32 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

The doctor who goes out on the field/court to help injured athletes:

America: trainer

UK: physio
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:39 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

Speaking of 'trainer'...

The casual athletic shoes frequently used for jogging (or relaxing Smile ):

UK English: 'trainers'
US English: 'sneakers'
Canadian English: 'runners'
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:46 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

The English biscuit is the American cookie.
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:53 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

Except for 'chocolate chip cookies', which are often still 'cookies' in the UK. Savoury/salty-type 'biscuits' in the UK may be known as 'crackers' in the US. And what's known as a 'biscuit' in the US is actually a type of bread/roll.

Brits may say 'that takes the biscuit' as an idiomatic expression that means 'that's the limit'/'that exceeds everything', but Americans often say 'that takes the cake.'
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On the weekend vs. At the weekend Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:24 am  On the weekend vs. At the weekend
 

I remember that first time when, walking with my dog (Great Dane Greta), I was asked by my neighbour lady whether I buy for her (for the dog Smile) biscuits I answered something like 'Oh, she loves biscuits very much, but it’s too sweet for dogs' (implying biscuit in Russian view Smile) and the lady politely masked her wonder. Smile

Just a bit later I learnt that dog biscuits are just special 'rusks'/dried crusts/crackers.
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