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2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan



 
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2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan #1 (permalink) Tue Jan 25, 2011 18:06 pm   2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan
 

For the second year in a row, U.S. military lost more troops to suicide than to combat in Iraq and Afghanistan
Posted on January 25, 2011
More troops lost to suicide

congress.org | Jan 23, 2011

By John Donnelly

For the second year in a row, the U.S. military has lost more troops to suicide than it has to combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The reasons are complicated and the accounting uncertain — for instance, should returning soldiers who take their own lives after being mustered out be included?

But the suicide rate is a further indication of the stress that military personnel live under after nearly a decade of war.

Figures released by the armed services last week showed an alarming increase in suicides in 2010, but those figures leave out some categories.

Overall, the services reported 434 suicides by personnel on active duty, significantly more than the 381 suicides by active-duty personnel reported in 2009. The 2010 total is below the 462 deaths in combat, excluding accidents and illness. In 2009, active-duty suicides exceeded deaths in battle.

Last week’s figures, though, understate the problem of military suicides because the services do not report the statistics uniformly. Several do so only reluctantly.

Figures reported by each of the services last week, for instance, include suicides by members of the Guard and Reserve who were on active duty at the time. The Army and the Navy also add up statistics for certain reservists who kill themselves when they are not on active duty.

But the Air Force and Marine Corps do not include any non-mobilized reservists in their posted numbers. What’s more, none of the services count suicides that occur among a class of reservists known as the Individual Ready Reserve, the more than 123,000 people who are not assigned to particular units.

Suicides by veterans who have left the service entirely after serving in Iraq and Afghanistan also are not counted by the Defense Department. The Department of Veterans Affairs keeps track of such suicides only if the person was enrolled in the VA health care system — which three-quarters of veterans are not.

But even if such veterans and members of the Individual Ready Reserve are excluded from the suicide statistics, just taking into account the deaths of reservists who were not included in last week’s figures pushes the number of suicides last year to at least 468.

That total includes some Air Force and Marine Corps reservists who took their own lives while not on active duty, and it exceeds the 462 military personnel killed in battle.

The problem of reservists’ suicides, in particular, has been a major concern to some lawmakers. A Pentagon study this year confirmed that reservists lack the support structure that active-duty troops have.

Some types of reservists are more cut off than others. Rep. Rush D. Holt, a New Jersey Democrat, says that members of the Individual Ready Reserve and other categories of citizen-soldiers do not receive a thorough screening for mental health issues when they return from deployments.

One of those soldiers, a constituent of Holt’s named Coleman S. Bean, was an Army sergeant and Iraq War veteran who suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder but could not find treatment. He took his own life in 2008.

Moved by Bean’s story, Holt wrote a bill requiring phone contacts with these reservists every 90 days after they come home from war. The House adopted Holt’s provision as part of its defense authorization bills for both fiscal 2010 and fiscal 2011. But conferees writing the final version of the bills took it out both years.

Holt said in December that Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain was responsible for that decision in the most recent bill. A spokeswoman for McCain, Brooke Buchanan, would not state his position on the provision. Instead, she said House members had removed it.

A House Armed Services Committee spokeswoman, Jennifer Kohl, said the House reluctantly pulled the provision from the bill because of the opposition of senators, whom she did not name.

Holt said a fuller reckoning of the number of suicides among military personnel and veterans is needed not so much to tell lawmakers and the public that there is a problem — that, he says, they know. Rather, it is needed to more accurately gauge the extent to which programs to help troubled troops are having an effect.

“In order to know whether the steps we’ve taken work,” Holt said, “we’re going to have to have more detailed knowledge of who’s out there.”
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2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan #2 (permalink) Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:24 am   2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan
 

US. is not strong like before but it is still acting like before. Obama is weak not because of he doesn't prefer the military choices in the middle east but because he has very little effect inside US.
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2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan #3 (permalink) Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:28 am   2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan
 

Actually those figures are quite sobering, come to think about it. After all, in ther US there are centers that help soldiers assimilate into society after they have been discharged from the army. Their failure to prevent suicide attempts is just beyond the pale.
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2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan #4 (permalink) Thu Jan 27, 2011 20:41 pm   2nd year in a row more troops lost to suicide than combat in Iraq and Afghanistan
 

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Actually those figures are quite sobering, come to think about it. After all, in ther US there are centers that help soldiers assimilate into society after they have been discharged from the army. Their failure to prevent suicide attempts is just beyond the pale.


But as far as I'm aware - these figures are not counting those who have left the army?

Im not 100% But I understood these figures to be just those of serving solders?
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