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#2 (permalink) Fri Mar 11, 2011 23:49 pm past vs past perfect |
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Both might be correct. It depends on the wider context. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#3 (permalink) Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:12 am past vs past perfect |
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Can We say, "She had gone swiftly and angrily." as a past perfect sentence without adding another past reference? |
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#4 (permalink) Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:21 am past vs past perfect |
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Hi,
As has been said several times already on this topic, using the past perfect means using a past simple in an adjoining/related sentence to indicate that there is an earlier time shown in that past perfect or if there isn't another tense, there should be an indication of it in the context.
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#5 (permalink) Sat Mar 12, 2011 15:29 pm past vs past perfect |
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Mr. Alan, Please don't be angry with me for not understanding your guidance. You told somewhere, if I remember correctly, that a past perfect sentence can end with adverb without second past tense reference. That is why, I coined this sentence ending with adverb. Is it not OK? Please bear with me and guide me. Thanks. |
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#6 (permalink) Sun Mar 13, 2011 0:18 am past vs past perfect |
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Hi Hanifasmm, what could be an adverb of time that points into the simple past in 'She had gone swiftly and angrily."?
"swiftly and angrily" is an adverb of manner.
Must be an adverb of time plus preposition "before" in the sentence.
She had gone swiftly and angrily before 8PM. She was gone swiftly and angrily at/after 8PM. She went away (left) swiftly and angrily at/after 8PM. |
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#7 (permalink) Wed Mar 23, 2011 16:30 pm past vs past perfect |
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Mr. Alan, Can "She had gone swiftly and angrily before 8PM." be OK fulfilling all the required past-participle grammar requirements? Thanks. |
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#8 (permalink) Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:56 pm past vs past perfect |
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Mr. Alan, Could you help, please |
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#9 (permalink) Thu Mar 24, 2011 14:14 pm past vs past perfect |
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Hi,
Yes, that works.
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#10 (permalink) Fri Mar 25, 2011 13:27 pm past vs past perfect |
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1. "Until Friday, Sita had not completed the report." 2. "As of Friday, Sita had not completed the report." 3. "He had turned forty several years ago." 4. "I had met him somewhere before."
The above sentences #1 & #2 satisfy the condition of past perfect. So they are OK. The sentences #3 & #4 are wrong and they should be written as below: 5. He turned forty several years ago. 6. I met him somewhere before. Could you please tell me about my observations right or wrong? Please correct me where I am wrong. Thanks. |
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#11 (permalink) Sat Mar 26, 2011 0:19 am past vs past perfect |
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I wonder if it is possible to say
I've met him somewhere before. |
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#12 (permalink) Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:42 am past vs past perfect |
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I have met him somewhere before.
it works ! _________________ ---jimic---
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#13 (permalink) Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:43 am past vs past perfect |
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Mr. Alan, I am for your valuable comments on my observations noted above. |
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