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for which he won an Oscar #1 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 7:38 am   for which he won an Oscar
 

Pacino's body of film works include the role of Michael Corleone in Francis Ford Coppola's The Godfather, as well as Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, Scarface, Heat, Glengarry Glen Ross, and Scent of a Woman, for which he won an Oscar for Best Actor.
- 'Which' here refers to the last movie in the list. Suppose, he won Oscars for all movies listed, would it sound 'for all of which'? Does 'which' always refer only to the last of the listed?
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for which he won an Oscar #2 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 8:13 am   for which he won an Oscar
 

You could use it for them all, but to sound most natural, then the word order would probably change, even though it would mean ending the sentence with a preposition:

...Scent of a Woman, all of which he won an Oscar (for Best Actor) for.
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for which he won an Oscar #3 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 8:41 am   for which he won an Oscar
 

Hi Eugene2114,

Using for 'all of which' as you suggest could sound confusing because it isn't really clear that the relative pronoun refers to the complete list. It could, at least grammatically, refer just to the last mentioned, which was your concern. To make it abundantly clear I would suggest ending the sentence: and for all of them he won an Oscar.

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for which he won an Oscar #4 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 9:13 am   for which he won an Oscar
 

Thank you, both Beees and Alan. May I suggest also 'for all of the above listed he won Oscars' as an option?
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for which he won an Oscar #5 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 18:34 pm   for which he won an Oscar
 

Alan wrote:
Hi Eugene2114,

Using for 'all of which' as you suggest could sound confusing because it isn't really clear that the relative pronoun refers to the complete list. It could, at least grammatically, refer just to the last mentioned, which was your concern. To make it abundantly clear I would suggest ending the sentence: and for all of them he won an Oscar.

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It's not the neatest way of saying it - but which part of 'all of which' sounds as if it is referring to the last one only?
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for which he won an Oscar #6 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 18:39 pm   for which he won an Oscar
 

Eugene2114 wrote:
Thank you, both Beees and Alan. May I suggest also 'for all of the above listed he won Oscars' as an option?
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As a separate sentence, that would be a little more elegant. I wouldn't use 'above listed' unless they were listed above though. 'For all the listed' or 'for all of the previously listed' would be more accurate.

However, if you are prepared to move away from 'all of which' as a phrase, how about considering this:

Pacino's Oscar winning films include the role of Michael Corleone in Francis Ford Coppola's The Godfather, as well as Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, Scarface, Heat, Glengarry Glen Ross, and Scent of a Woman.

(Of course, we are still pretending for the sake of the exercise that he won Oscars for them all)
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for which he won an Oscar #7 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 19:19 pm   for which he won an Oscar
 

Thanks so much, Beees. I really appreciate your neat explanation.
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for which he won an Oscar #8 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 20:13 pm   for which he won an Oscar
 

Hi Bev,

Thank you for your comment. I didn't know I had to answer questions from you as well. I simply added a suggestion, which can be looked at or not,

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for which he won an Oscar #9 (permalink) Tue May 10, 2011 20:49 pm   for which he won an Oscar
 

Well, it was a genuine question. I honestly don't see how 'all of which' can sound as if it might be referring to the last one only, so sought clarification.

There is no onus on you to answer questions from me, of course.
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