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records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties #1 (permalink) Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:51 am   records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties
 

Which sentence is correct, 1. or 2., and 3 or 4?
1.I hope you remember sending me the birth records of their children's.

2.I hope you remember sending me the birth records of their children.

3.Well, Jan and Maryanna from Gniazdowskis got married in Warsaw in 1824 in the Church of Saint Cross's.

4.Well, Jan and Maryanna from Gniazdowskis got married in Warsaw in 1824 in the Church of Saint Cross.

Is 5. sentence ok?:

5. Don't you happen to have the microfilms, in which the birth record of Jan (about 1786) born in Struniwy would be, or to have any pieces of info regarding Bonifacy living in Mierzejewo Nogawki (if they were the inherited properties!), who was probably born there.

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records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties #2 (permalink) Fri Jun 24, 2011 13:32 pm   records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties
 

2 and 4 are correct.

5, is very convoluted and hard to read. It could be more simply recorded like this:
Do you have any microfilms where I could find the birthdate of someone named Jan who was born in Struniwy around 1786? I also wonder if you have any information about someone named Bonifacy who lived and was probably born in Mierzejewo Nogawki.
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records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties #3 (permalink) Fri Jun 24, 2011 13:45 pm   records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties
 

Dear Beeesneees, please look at this example:
Our father has taken all those photographs. I see. I particularly like this photograph of your father's.-according to my book.

I meant it should be: =1. I hope you remember sending me the birth records of their children's -analogically to :of your father's.

So this sentence has a mistake: I particularly like this photograph of your father's. - Should it be: of your father?

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records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties #4 (permalink) Fri Jun 24, 2011 17:16 pm   records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties
 

Hi Saneta,

The two sentences have different meanings.

1. I particularly like this photograph of your father's.
In the sentence above, the possessive 'father's' is used because he was the photographer. That means that 'father' cannot be seen in the photograph. The photo is part of father's work -- the work he does as a photographer. This meaning fits the context. In other contexts, the meaning might be more similar to 'a photograph that belongs to father' (i.e. 'father' owns the photo). Here again, father is most likely not IN the photo.

2. I particularly like this photograph of your father.
In sentence 2, what you see IN the photograph is 'father'. In this case, 'father' was not the person who took the picture. Instead, somebody else took a picture of him. The speaker apparently thinks that 'father' looks very good in the photograph.

You might find it useful to do a search for threads about 'double possessive' or 'double genitive' that already exist on this site. Here some that you will find, for example:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/sutra349860.html#349860
http://www.english-test.net/forum/sutra216929.html#216929

You can find even more information by doing a Google search. For example:
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm
(Scroll down to Double Possessives at the bottom of the page.)

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records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties #5 (permalink) Fri Jun 24, 2011 17:34 pm   records of their children's/the Church of Saint Cross/inherited properties
 

Dear Esl Expert, very clear explanation!!! Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!
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