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| Jamie (K) wrote: |
| spencer wrote: |
| This is kind of weird, but in my language the words depend and hang are the same. |
I think it's the same way in French, Spanish and some other European languages. I don't think it's the Hungarians who did that damage. :D |
Hey, don't you go trying to shift the blame now! :)
In French and Spanish, 'd?pendre' and 'depender' (respectively) rather mean 'to depend', whereas 'to hang' is translated as 'pendre' and 'colgar' (or the less commonly used 'pender'). Yet curiously, they do translate 'to unhang' as 'd?pendre/descolgar' (Fr./Sp.). So your supposition is half true after all -- only for the French word, that is (well, it makes it only about a quarter true, if my maths is right!). |
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| #18 (permalink) Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:30 pm 'depend on' vs. 'depend from' |
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YES!
I told you!
We did it! :) |
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| #19 (permalink) Fri Apr 21, 2006 13:42 pm 'depend on' vs. 'depend from' |
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| Nicole wrote: |
Good evening. I remember being taught that it should read 'depend on'. However, I often hear 'depend from' and if you look this up in Google you will get tens of thousands fo pages containing this combination. So, what is correct, depend on or depend from or both?
Have a Good Friday.
Nicole |
IMHO Nicole, literary norm is "depend on".Yes,you may hear "depend from" but it's only colloquial level. |
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| #20 (permalink) Wed Mar 17, 2010 21:17 pm 'depend on' vs. 'depend from' |
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Hi, friends..
I just decided to check whether I had written correct "depend from" and found your old debate ... it was very interesting to know all of this ..
I want to say that in Russian the words "depend" and "hang" are cognate. Hang is "висеть", depend is "ЗАвисеть"..But it is interesting that we never use the pretext "on" with it..
We use that contrary, never saying "висеть от" (hang from) и "зависеть на"("depend on")..We say like "depend from" and "Hang on"...So i think many russin translators have made that mistake in english..
Big greetings to the next russian translator who maybe will read it.. |
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| #21 (permalink) Wed Mar 17, 2010 22:22 pm 'depend on' vs. 'depend from' |
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Incidentally, I have one more question, what about use of the word "dependence" .... for example I have a diagram, which shows that something depends on something ... .how to write above it ?? Whether would be the correct variant to write "dependence of something on something"??
..additionally, I have found the variant "dependence upon"? what can you say about it?
Thanx |
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| #22 (permalink) Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:45 am 'depend on' vs. 'depend from' |
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Hi,
The noun 'dependence' would be followed by the preposition 'on/upon' in the same way as with the verb 'depend'. I would say that 'upon' is more emphatic than 'on'.
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| #23 (permalink) Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:30 am 'depend on' vs. 'depend from' |
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| Thanx..I was also inclined to this |
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