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#2 (permalink) Wed Jul 27, 2011 23:00 pm 'TO' with Verb and Pronouns |
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| Hi it sounds like a matter of informality or being slang...when I first saw your post I was reminded of a possible form of"deny":I can't find it in books but it sounds somewhat familiar to say informally for example "permission was denied her"..(formal......> denied to her". |
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Sattar Shokri I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:03 am 'TO' with Verb and Pronouns |
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It's certainly grammatically correct in the active voice:
They refused him permission He handed her a chair.
Dozy made an important point elsewhere in these forums earlier about the fact that when they are speaking informally, many people don't use grammatically correct sentences - the language is not pure. Perhaps this is an example of an active phrase voice being used in the passive voice without much thought behind it. I find it acceptable informally.
However, 'next her' is definitely incorrect in all instances. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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Beeesneees Language Coach

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#4 (permalink) Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:02 am 'TO' with Verb and Pronouns |
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Can I say: "They refused permission to him". ? |
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Allifathima I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#5 (permalink) Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:27 am 'TO' with Verb and Pronouns |
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Your message is almost identical to that sent be someone earlier this week. That person was banned for posting the same message across many threads and forums, but not making any other response. Was it you? _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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Beeesneees Language Coach

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#6 (permalink) Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:28 am 'TO' with Verb and Pronouns |
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| Allifathima wrote: |
Can I say: "They refused permission to him". ? |
No. They refused him permission. They refused to give him permission. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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Beeesneees Language Coach

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#7 (permalink) Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:09 am Thanks |
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| Thanks for taking the time out and giving the questions your thoughts. No, non of the questions asked i believe could be grammatically incorrect. I have taken them word to word from well known old English novels. That's how they came to the fore. All i need to know is the why of it. That is, if anyone knows , why the 'to' is missing. Thanks again. :) |
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Persiphone New Member
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| Confusing subject verb agreement | I have a question.. |