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Conditional tense I #31 (permalink) Thu Aug 28, 2008 14:34 pm   Conditional tense I
 

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Out of curiosity, do you think there is any difference in the sense of urgency/immediacy in these two sentences?

- If you really want to be helpful, then you have to tell me the truth.
- If you really want to be helpful, then you must tell me the truth.
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Conditional tense I #32 (permalink) Thu Aug 28, 2008 14:37 pm   Conditional tense I
 

Hi Amy

I think urgency is the wrong tonal difference.

I think "must" sounds a bit like an order, especially if you place the stress on must.
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Conditional tense I #33 (permalink) Thu Aug 28, 2008 14:55 pm   Conditional tense I
 

Yes, the word 'must' does tend to sound a bit like an order, doesn't it. Especially with added stress.

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Conditional tense I #34 (permalink) Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:44 am   Conditional tense I
 

Alan wrote:
By choosing 'you have to tell the truth' I am indicating that you 'must' tell the truth -it's a necessity - it's imperative- it's urgent - it's immediate. And that follows from the sentiment in: If you really want to be helpful. Changing the idea of 'must' into 'will have to' doesn't convey the immediacy of what what I wanted.


On reflection, it seems to me that the will-less version can also appear as a general, non-"urgent", non-"immediate" statement, in the right context:

1. If you really want to be helpful, then you have to tell me the truth [when I periodically ask you about these things.]

Cf. the more "immediate":

2. If you really want to be helpful, then you have to tell me the truth [about what happened last night.]

This demonstrates that the "urgency" relates to the assumed context, not to the presence of "really".

Since no context is provided, that urgency only exists in the question-setter's mind; the respondent has no way of divining what the question-setter "wanted".

(I would add that "really" here qualifies "want", and so expresses the sincerity of the "wanting", not the urgency of the occasion.)

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Conditional tense I #35 (permalink) Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:42 am   Conditional tense I
 

MrPedantic wrote:
Since no context is provided, that urgency only exists in the question-setter's mind; the respondent has no way of divining what the question-setter "wanted".
I agree. As the test question stands, it in essence requires the test-taker to be clairvoyant.
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Torsren said #36 (permalink) Sat May 09, 2009 4:51 am   Torsren said
 

In the conditional I we can use modal verbs (shall, can, may, must) instead of 'will + base verb.[/quote]

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Conditional tense I #37 (permalink) Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:21 am   Conditional tense I
 

I really confuse to find answer this sentences are very complicated..
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Conditional tense I #38 (permalink) Sat Nov 21, 2009 14:09 pm   Conditional tense I
 

good job. that was useful test.
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Conditional tense I #39 (permalink) Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:05 am   Conditional tense I
 

Good question let's PRACTICE to gather,Practice make perfect..ha haa
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