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#2 (permalink) Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:37 am Passive Sentence |
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#3 (permalink) Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:27 am Passive Sentence |
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Hi Hiko
For the sake of argument (or for the sake of winning an argument :wink:), c. is theoretically possible, but in my opinion an appropriate context would be rare.
I think the best way for you to win your argument would be to come up with an appropriate context. :D
Amy
PS I'd be interested in reading what you come up with. _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#4 (permalink) Mon Aug 27, 2007 14:07 pm Passive sentence (The number of automobiles ... greatly increased) |
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Hi, Amy
I just incidentally ran into this discussion and it intrigued me a bit ...
So, what is the right answer ?
I personally would go for b The number of automobiles has greatly increased |
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#5 (permalink) Mon Aug 27, 2007 14:39 pm Passive sentence (The number of automobiles ... greatly increased) |
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I agree with you, Alex.
As you can see, I'm still waiting for Hiko's further context. :wink: . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#6 (permalink) Mon Aug 27, 2007 14:43 pm Passive sentence (The number of automobiles ... greatly increased) |
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Hi, Amy
I think he (or she) gave up on making up his context :lol: So much time has passed ever since |
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#7 (permalink) Mon Aug 27, 2007 15:12 pm Passive sentence (The number of automobiles ... greatly increased) |
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Here's my try at a possible justification for (c):
Q: What happens whenever additional lanes are added to a highway? A: The number of automobiles (that can and do use the highway) is greatly increased. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#8 (permalink) Mon Aug 27, 2007 17:59 pm Passive sentence (The number of automobiles ... greatly increased) |
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Hi, Amy
Sorry for my perseverance, but if I want to justify the b option, will this dialogue do the trick:
Q: What has happened to the number of cars on roads A: It has greatly increased
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Q: What happened to the number of cars on roads on some random date A: It greatly increased then
Thank you ! :) |
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#9 (permalink) Tue Aug 28, 2007 0:57 am Passive sentence (The number of automobiles ... greatly increased) |
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Hi Alex
It wasn't the tense that was the main problem, it was the voice. I think it would be most common to use the active voice (like both of your examples).
Option (c) is the present simple in the passive voice (I don't think you can look at the word 'increased' as an adjective in the sentence), so I tried to think up a context in which the number might be seen as increased by something. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#10 (permalink) Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:57 am Passive sentence (The number of automobiles ... greatly increased) |
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Hi, Amy
Yeah, I see your point, thanks a lot ! |
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