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If you post too large a chunk of the book then even if you give the source you may be breaking copyright.
You would need to get permission.
I don't remember the limit of the amount you can quote from one source.
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But doesn't using copyrighted material for educational/research purposes fall under the "fair use" law, whereby you're allowed to use any amount of copyrighted material for the purposes of research/criticism?
I'm not entirely clear on this though....probably this law varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
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| I believe that is generally not allowed. I don't think professors may photocopy entire books for their class. I even think the university has to pay the publishers something when professors put an article in a reader. They will often just do it without telling; but officially, I think it is not allowed. There are probably differences from country to country, but I think it is somewhat like this in Western countries. |
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These are the acts that are allowed by UK law (I can't speak for other countries, but imagine it is similar) to use copyrighted material to a certain degree without infringement:
Private and research study purposes.
Performance, copies or lending for educational purposes.
Criticism and news reporting.
Incidental inclusion.
Copies and lending by librarians.
Acts for the purposes of royal commissions, statutory enquiries, judicial proceedings and parliamentary purposes.
However, even under these categories there is a very definite set limit to the amount you can legally copy and I don't think an individual is covered in the same way as an educational establishment is. 'Fair dealing' is the UK term used for the amount that can be copied by these means, and the amount of 'fair dealing' allowed varies from use to use. This makes it quite complicated.
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_use
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p27_work_of_others
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Thanks Bev for the links, I've skimmed through them.
I guess this is the crux:
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The perceived importance of the copied content rather than simply the quantity that counts.
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Actually, I think that quote needs to be put within the context of the whole paragraph:
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How much of a work can I use under fair dealing?
There is no simple formula or percentage that can be applied. You may have seen figures like ‘up to 10%’ or ‘no more than 400 words’ quoted in some publications, but such figures are at best a rough guide and can be misleading. What is acceptable will vary from one work to another.
In cases that have come to trial what is clear is that it is the perceived importance of the copied content rather than simply the quantity that counts. Judges hearing such cases often have to make an objective decision on whether the use is justified or excessive. |
But for the purposes of the original question, what really matters is this advice (also from the second link, just above the quote you provide)
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Obtaining Permission
If you are not sure if your use is fair dealing or covered under a licensing scheme always check with the publisher/copyright owner and obtain permission if needed.
When obtaining permission to use a copyright work it is normally best to contact the publisher. In some cases the publisher may be able to act on the copyright owners behalf, alternatively they may direct you to the appropriate licensing organisation or pass your request on to the copyright owner directly. In the case of material published on the Internet the best place to start is normally by contacting the web site owner.
When seeking permission, you should put your request in writing and specify:
The material you wish use (include the title of publication, author name etc.).
The exact content to be duplicated (i.e. page numbers, section names, etc.).
The number of copies you wish to make.
How the copies will be used (i.e. for an event, course work, etc.).
Who the copies will be distributed to (i.e. students , parents, general public).
You should allow adequate time for the copyright owner to provide permission. Also bear in mind that the copyright owner is not required to give permission and may refuse or simply not respond to your request.
For your own reference and security permission should be obtained in writing and you should keep a record of any correspondence giving permission or stipulating conditions of use. |
In other words, if Untaught wants to be absolutely certain that there will be no comeback, he needs to seek advice from the book's publishers. If he doesn't do so, then he needs to weight up his options and decide whether it's worth the risk of going ahead anyway.
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