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Re: That vs which #16 (permalink) Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:03 am   Re: That vs which
 

Zainab011 wrote:
Hi Torsen!
If I am right you are saying which can't use to demonstrate something.Then is this wrong sentence " The lawnmower, which is in the garage, needs sharpening."
and it should be "The lawnmower that is in the garage needs sharpening."
But I think both are correct.


Most native English speakers would agree with you Zainab, even though use of 'which is in...' so that it divides the main phrase of the sentence is slightly odd there.
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Which vs that #17 (permalink) Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:55 am   Which vs that
 

Hi Zainab011,

It is important to note that both 'that' and 'which' in your sentences are relative pronoins. 'That' as a relative pronoun is conventionally used after a superlative as in: The best book that I have read. This use illustrates the defining nature of the pronoun. The lawnmower that is in .. defines a particular lawnwwwer in contrast to any other lawnmower. The lawnmower which is in the .. merely links the noun 'lawnmower' with its location 'in the garage'.

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Which vs that #18 (permalink) Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:48 am   Which vs that
 

Thanks for your explanations. I sometimes confuse Which and That.
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Which vs that #19 (permalink) Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:49 am   Which vs that
 

hi mr. Torsten
. thanks for this nice question.
at first i didn't know the differences between which and that, but now i underestand .
thank you very much.
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Re: That vs which #20 (permalink) Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:28 am   Re: That vs which
 

Torsten wrote:
Hi Kiran,

Many thanks for your interesting question. That refers to specific, definite (often distinctively located) things as in the sentence above. So, the word that is a demonstrative pronoun.
Which is never a demonstrative and does not relate to specific things.

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hello,
the explanatıon ıs meanıngful but stıll ı have a claım.Thıs ıs a defınıng sentence and usıng ''that'' ıs not that bad.I have seen lots of sentences wıth double choıce lıke thıs. now my questıon: Can we say that '' THAT'' cant be used ın the sentence gıven?
thanks ın advance
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Which vs that #21 (permalink) Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:20 am   Which vs that
 

You seem to be confused, Aydn. If you mean by 'the sentence given' the original test sentence in this thread then 'that' is correct.
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Which vs that #22 (permalink) Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:28 am   Which vs that
 

Thank you alan,
I got 7 out of 10 questions. I totaly confused about why "that" is used insted of which, what but now understanding some when Iam reading explanations still I am not understanding clearly. I want to some more examples to understood clearly. I have nill knowledge in usage of grammer so please tell me differentiate between what , which and that.
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Which vs that #23 (permalink) Sat Aug 06, 2011 18:48 pm   Which vs that
 

Hello Everyone,

I just happened upon this thread. I'm an ex-English teacher and, if I may, I'd like to try to help.

It often gets confusing when 'which' and 'that' are being used as relative pronouns to introduce adjective clauses. The one you use can change the meaning or intent of a sentence. For example: He ate the chocolate cake, which Martha baked, for dessert. The important point in this sentence is that he ate the chocolate cake. The fact that Martha baked it is just extra, nonessential information. You can leave out "which Martha baked" and the meaning of the sentence doesn't change. But, if the sentence is "He ate the chocolate cake that Martha baked for dessert." then the meaning of the sentence changes. It suggests that more than one chocolate cake was available and he ate the one that Martha baked.

Another example: The car, which was just washed, is blue. This means that we have one car and it's blue. (And, by the way, it was just washed.) But if the sentence is "The car that was just washed is blue.", then the fact that the car is blue is important. We have more than one car and the blue car was the one that was just washed.

So, the general rule is: 'which' clauses are nonessential, while 'that' clauses are essential or necessary to sentence meaning. A 'which' clauses is set off from the rest of a sentence by two commas (like in the previous examples) or by one comma if it come at the end of a sentence: "I bought a green dress, which happened to be my boyfriend's favorite color."

One more example: The mother gave cookies to all the kids that played nicely. "...that played nicely" is necessary and essential to the sentence's meaning so 'that' is used, without a comma. If you left it out, the sentence would be "The mother gave cookies to all the kids.", which does not mean the same thing at all.

(One the other hand, re-read the previous sentence and leave out the phrase "which does not mean the same thing at all". That phrase or clause is nonessential, because it can be omitted and the sentence still means the same thing.

I do hope this is helpful and not more confusing.

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Which vs that #24 (permalink) Sat Aug 06, 2011 19:15 pm   Which vs that
 

Hi,

I must add another point concerning 'which'. You can also use it as a defining relative where it isn't preceded by a comma and it takes on the characteristics you have described for 'that' as in: I am looking for the book which I left on the table - in other words that book and not any other one.

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Which vs that #25 (permalink) Wed Apr 18, 2012 18:12 pm   Which vs that
 

Hi!

I understood perfectly; thanks for the explanation torsten,

If you are talking about something specific (something you know) you use THAT instead of WHICH.
If you are talking about something not specific Use WHICH

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