Sinatra.

[Kitosdad]

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[Eugene2114]

Yes, Kitostad, he's deserved his place in the Hall of Fame. "And now, ladies and gentlemen, the national anthem of America, but you needn't rise" - that's him before performing "My Way"...
Regards.

[Kati Svaby]

Dear Kitos,

Can people say anything about Frank Sinatra the most important that his songs stayed unforgettable. He means for me my youth. "Iuventus ventus "as Latin proverb says.
I think of you lot. I hope that you are okay.I didn't want to disturb you with my letter, but I thought now that I am sending the lyrics to those fellows who don't understand the text. You know for not native person this isn't a piece of cake to understand the text of a song.

Maybe This Time

Maybe this time
I will be lucky

Maybe this time
she is gona stay

Maybe this time
for the first time
love won't wander away

She is gona hold me fast
and I will be home at last

Not a loser
anymore
alike the last time
and the time before

Everybody
loves a winner
but nobody loves me

Mr. Peaceful, Mr. Happy
that's what I want to be

All the odds are
in my favor
something's bound to begin

It's got to happen
happen sometime

Maybe this time, I...I'll win

Everybody
loves a winner
but nobody loves me

Mr. Peaceful, Mr. Happy
that's what I want to be

All the odds are
in my favor
somethings bound to begin

It's got to happen
happen sometime

Maybe this time,
Maybe this time,
I gona win.

2.Didn't we

This time we almost made those pieces fit, didn't we?
This time we almost made some sense of it, didn't we?
This time I have the answer right here in my hand,
Then I touched it, and it has turned to sand.
This time we almost sang the song in tune, didn't we?
This time we almost made it to the moon, didn't we? girl and
This time, we almost made (almost made) a poem rhyme
And this time we almost made that long hard climb.
Didn't we almost make it this time... this time.

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Take care.

Regards:
Kati Svaby
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[Jamie (K)]

Frank Sinatra and Henry Ford II are the two people my parents taught us kids NOT to admire.

[Kati Svaby]

Hello Jamie K.

Quotation from me:

[Jamie (K)]

Frank Sinatra and Henry Ford II were both crude, unethical men who exploited people, but other than that, they don't have much in common. They just both happened to be men my parents found disgusting.

Kati, you should look at a book by the British historian Paul Johnson, called "Intellectuals". It describes the lives of historical figures who "loved humanity" but hated people. He covers Shelly, Rousseau, Marx and others who had high ideals for justice and equality but didn't mind ruining the lives of those close to them.

[Kati Svaby]

Hello Jamie K,

I knew about Frank Sinatra that he was unethical, it's true that I liked to listen to him but the little devil told me to consider him "at arm's length".
Now that Kytos - whom I respect very much - send this well known song to us, I said to myself it's hight time that I re-examined my keeping up. What is of importance for me ? Life of a singer, a writer, a poet, a painter, a sculptor or you? What is important to me in Frank Sinatra? Was he a Mafia boss ( as lot of people say about him)? Or its life-work, what I liked to listen to it or to dance with lot of people when he was singing.
I am sure that the stories of life will be forgotten,to-day who care about Byron's and Shelley's friendship when you can read their poems. For example I don't care about these things so I always forget them. And when somebody says to me, I feel something "déja vu" aha, I said to myself, yes,that's true I heard about it, but I don't know why I have forgotten.

Regards.
Kati Svaby
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[Jamie (K)]

These stories about artists' and philosophers' lives are important, because there's always a crop of younger people absorbing their work, and especially in the case of philosophers, they need to be informed so that they can consider the man's words in the context of how he lived his life.

It's helpful for these people to know that Marx had never visited a factory and even refused to do so when it was arranged, and that in the communist party in England Marx nearly always opposed the workers and voted against what they said they needed. It's also helpful for them to know how savagely Rousseau abandoned his own wife and children while espousing his ideals of how humans should be treated.

In modern times, it's important for people to know that while he was vilifying the Halliburton corporation, Michael Moore was investing in it and profiting from it. Or that Al Gore's lifestyle produces more carbon dioxide that that of 1,000 ordinary families, and that financially he has profited enormously from belief in the "global warming" hoax because he owns a large share of the main European brokerage that trades the carbon credits.

[Kati Svaby]

Hello Jamie K,
I agree with you when you speak about our politician’s corruption of nowadays. It is interested in everybody.

About Marx I can’t say anything but he was a theoric man. Of course I know him because I had to learn Marxism.

Rousseau died when he was 66. His life was very difficult. In one of his works in Emil he wrote about how to educate a child, how to teach a student. Today also who wants become a teacher they learn Emil. The enlightement meant in his work that he knew with phisical punishment a child's mental development cant be assured.( Yes, it's true he sent his own children in an institute.)

An artist life is very different from the life of politicians. An artist must realize, express oneself and meantime to live a balanced familial life - is very difficult.

I would make a difference between life of an artist and our politicians. As Alan should say this is a horse of another colour. A politician is a man of public life and an artist create oneself from his private sphere, an artist always individualist.

So lot of things are forgivable, pardonable for an artist.

Kati Svaby
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[Jamie (K)]

I am a graduate of art school, and was active in the arts for years, and I do not believe that artists should be forgiven for anything that is not forgiven in an ordinary individual. Good artists run the same gamut that everyone else does -- from loyal family men to psychopaths. People use the fact that the person is an artist to excuse a lot of cruelty, but it should not be excused, because artists don't have to behave this way. Excusing artists for this behavior is the same as when people excuse someone's tantrums because she has red hair. It's based on a folk myth, not on any truth about the psychology of artists (or redheads).

[Kati Svaby]

Hello,

It is interested you were graduated of art school.

I have been living for 50 years with a painter, who was teacher also, and in the last 6 years he became director on the Hungarian Academy of Fine Arts. I don't have to say that I know lot of Hungarian artists and their life also. The fact that we could live our life together it is the merit of both of us; but lot of people says that my profession - I was a special teacher who taught mentally handicapped children - I had lot of tolerance this helped us to survive our difficult periods. (They say this only from joke.) At last we stayed together.

I could tell lot of stories not only about us but his contemporaries also.

Unfortunately I won't answer today, because I am very tired and I must go to bed.

Good night:
Kati Svaby
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[Kitosdad]

I would be interested to hear how your parents know that Sinatra was crude, exploitative and unethical Jamie. Did thek know him personally, or have they only formed their opinion from reading about him?
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[Jamie (K)]

There was enough information from the press that some of it was believable. Plus, my father worked in the entertainment industry at the time when Sinatra and other famous American performers of his generation were coming up, and he had direct experience with them. Some of them he liked, and some of them he thought were sleazy.

[Kati Svaby]

Hello Kytos,

Here in East-Central Europe really was a buzz or a gossip about Sinatra. Not the young people spoke about it but the older generation. But the youth didn't care about it, they care only with his voice, songs, charming personality and everybody were dancing when his song was played. This is the true.

Best regards:
Kati Svaby
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We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage.

[Katty2010]

I really don't think people should judge celebrities by what they read about them. I mean few years ago Michael Jackson was considered the worst guy in industry all because of tabloids and false press about him. Then as soon as he died, the same people who had once made him look worst suddenly started printing about how great a legend he was just to earn money.
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