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In the name of all Germans: Thank you!
Though there is always room for improvement, for everyone, everything, everywhere. ;-)
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| #3 (permalink) Wed Dec 07, 2011 19:13 pm My Favourite Country in this Decade |
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Yes, there are lots of things we can improve in our country. For example, many people in East Germany constantly complain about their situation trying to put the blame on foreigners. In a recent survey conducted in the Free State of Thuringia, more than 50% of the people asked said they feel intimidated by the foreigners in their region although less than 3% of Thuringia's population are foreigners.
Also, Germany is lagging behind in many fields such as web programming, psychology and education.
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| #4 (permalink) Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:54 am My Favourite Country in this Decade |
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Danke Schoon.
But, in what ways Germany lacks programming, psychology and education. I don't really get it. ?.
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| #5 (permalink) Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:17 am My Favourite Country in this Decade |
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In terms of German language, it's a beautiful language , pretty easy to talk. But grammar is quite difficult for most learners. In my opinion, if the authority can officially simplify German grammar, a lot of learners will surely go for it. I mean officially recognized " Modified German Grammar for Overseas Learners" would be invented. Difficult German Grammar makes learners drop out in a way, so it creates less communication, I believe. If you compare with English Grammar.
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| #6 (permalink) Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:15 am Re: My Favourite Country in this Decade |
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Hi Ms Claudia!
Germany is a nice country, but has a little bit of conservativeness! Do you agree?
I think my teacher Mr.Aman still( Dues language center in Dhaka) can remember me -----Quazi. a student of promising etc.
Where is the drawback? I think nothing ------an aristocracy has a lot of liabilities!
Aristocracy makes life slow but makes more bright light to everybody. That can only be realized not can be seen.
Sometimes, I wonder to see Germany's total export value near to the USA in a year!
How? dignity of mentality.
I completed half of the elementary course in 1991----Be haisen see ? Is haise Quazi
etc-------Gootten tag or aufvedeirzen etc but the Language aristocracy I felt an immense ----.
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| Mr. Kyaw Min Lwin wrote: |
Danke Schoon.
But, in what ways Germany lacks programming, psychology and education. I don't really get it. ?.
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It doesn't lack these things but it's lagging behind in these fields. I'm sure you understand the term 'to be lagging behind'?
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| Mr. Kyaw Min Lwin wrote: |
| But, in what ways Germany lacks programming, psychology and education. I don't really get it. ? |
Germany's school system is very old and needs to be improved. Children get "categorized" every couple of years, at least that's what I like to call it. From age three, most kids go to kindergarden. At age six or seven, depending on the month a child was born, they go to elementary school. So far, so good. But in fourth grade, they are "sorted out": the children with above average grades go to grammar school/academic high school, while the others have to stay in the regular school (sorry, I'm lacking a truly fitting word for "Hauptschule".) In sixth grade, the child has the chance to leave the regular school if the grades are above average then, and he or she can go to middle school. Middle school is not as advanced as grammar school, so if a student wants to go to University, he or she continues education after middle school to receive the diploma on the level of grammar school, which is not regarded the same as the high school/A levels diploma. The other kids with average to below average grades stay in regular school until the ninth grade, after which they can either choose to continue with their education for another year to get the diploma for middle school, or go on as an apprentice or advanced trade / vocational school to become skilled crafts(wo)men or trade(wo)men.
This system has been in use for a very long time. The thing is, many children are late bloomers, psychologically and intellectually, and at the age of ten/eleven, their future is set simply because they didn't get selected for higher education. They can, of course, catch up on the diplomas, but it is tedious and not of the same quality than going the normal route. This is why many youths give up and simply learn a trade, even though they have the potential to become a great scientist, for example. Not that there is anything wrong with being a craftsperson. Whenever I need one, I can see how much money they make after getting the bill, lol.
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| Mr. Kyaw Min Lwin wrote: |
In terms of German language, it's a beautiful language , pretty easy to talk. But grammar is quite difficult for most learners. In my opinion, if the authority can officially simplify German grammar, a lot of learners will surely go for it. I mean officially recognized " Modified German Grammar for Overseas Learners" would be invented. Difficult German Grammar makes learners drop out in a way, so it creates less communication, I believe. If you compare with English Grammar.
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Frankly, I was completely against the "Rechtschreibreform" (spelling reformation) that took place in 1996. It was so ill thought through and so badly executed, that in 2001, they had to reform the reformation! There was so much confusion on how to spell specific words, that a lot of Germans aged fourty and older, chose to keep the old way of spelling. Some of the changes don't even make sense, like ripping apart certain compound words, which causes them to be ambiguous. I dread to think what it would be like to reform German grammar!
A language needs to grow, no doubt, and it changes constantly, but instead of simply adopting the changes and additions as they come, Germany doesn't accept them and considers them as errors, therefore German stays rigid and set in its ways for many, many years--until it is suddenly ripped from its sleep and gets reformed all at once!
Much too drastic, and much too quick.
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Mr. Torsten,
My apology, I know what is lag and what is lack very well. I'm kinda a careless guy. Thank you.
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Mein Liebe Freund Herr Minhajquazi,
I think you can find aristocrats and conservatives in every country and society. But I personally like the aristocrats and conservatives. Rather than the communists. Germany is a great nation with very long and lasting history. Most of the high techs today were originated in Germany, and spread to the rest of the world after WWII? You remember V1, V2, Einsten and Atomic energy and bombs? After WWII Germany's brain, brawn and wealth were taken by the winners?
What I admire most about today's Germany is their environmental awareness. It may be a political stunt but Germany still excels the other countries in seriousness about it. If you open and look out of your window now, you surely will see and breathe dusty, smoggy, smoky, choking air and atmosphere which envelops your office or house. Obviously different from when we were 30 years old? Consequently, you can foresee what will be our everyday atmosphere in the next fifteen years' time? Besides, imagine about forest, household water, drinking water, soil erosion, desertification, scarce resources due to unsustainable exploitation, climate change, less production of livestock and fishery.
Just for this very reason alone, I can see the German minds and mentality, still ,is much more advanced from our sleepy, sluggish ways of thinking, my friend.
In fact, they are not aristocratic and conservative. They are wise and futuristic. We are not moving at all. Are we still thinking ourselves to much like in those colonial days?.....
The tortoise wins only in the fable.
Kindest regards to you my friend.
May god help you in your humanistic purposes!
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Dear Claudia,
so much information, thank you very much. I will reply you tmrw. I have a submarine to catch now.
Vielen Dank. Bis Morgen.
Oh, I like your way of diet things as well.... Gesundheit.
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| Mr. Kyaw Min Lwin wrote: |
Dear Claudia,
so much information, thank you very much. I will reply you tmrw. I have a submarine to catch now. |
Anytime! I hope you caught your submarine. Is it yellow? As you know, we all live in a yellow submarine, yellow submarine, yellow submarine and our friends are all aboard!
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Dear Claudia,
Thanks again, it was too dark to see the colour of the submarine, yes, it should be a yellow one.
It is of course, as you say, reform is a word that is real hard to achieve. And I just mentioned about the simplification of German grammar, as a foreign learners. As you know, without a basis knowledge of any European language it is almost impossible to learn German or French or Spanish or Russian grammar. A reform of law or act is a real hard job as well. It involves a lot of internal and external politics and red tapes to my knowledge.
Anyway, I found you have a very good knowledge and judgment of things and are outspoken. I appreciate it .
Vielen Dank.
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| Mr. Kyaw Min Lwin wrote: |
| It is of course, as you say, reform is a word that is real hard to achieve. And I just mentioned about the simplification of German grammar, as a foreign learners. As you know, without a basis knowledge of any European language it is almost impossible to learn German or French or Spanish or Russian grammar. A reform of law or act is a real hard job as well. It involves a lot of internal and external politics and red tapes to my knowledge. |
Hi Kyaw,
It is always difficult to learn a language. The important thing is not to give up and to expose yourself to it as much and often as you can. Instead of changing a language by simplifying it, isn't it up to the teacher to make it as easy and fun as possible for the learner? If we would change German grammar to make it easier for speakers of the Tibeto-Burman languages to learn it, then it wouldn't make it any easier for speakers of other language families and they might want to simplify German for themselves, too. It is true that it is especially difficult to learn a language of a different family, but let's take German vs. English as an example: even though both languages are of the same branch, namely Germanic (not to be mistaken for German), English and German have a completely different sentence structure. English speakers say that Germans speak backwards, and German speakers say that the English speak backwards. Learning a language thoroughly is no walk in the park, but with the right attitude, it can be mastered.
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