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past instead of past perfect #1 (permalink) Mon Dec 12, 2011 23:50 pm   past instead of past perfect
 

Can one use:

1-Yesterday when we tested the computers and one of them malfunctioned. But he tried to sell the computer that malfunctioned.
instead of:
2-Yesterday when we tested the computers and one of them malfunctioned. But he tried to sell the computer that had malfunctioned.
Can one use:
3-There was an explosion and some of the windows cracked. I touched a window that cracked.
instead of:
4-There was an explosion and some of the windows cracked. I touched a window that had cracked.
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past instead of past perfect #2 (permalink) Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:55 pm   past instead of past perfect
 

Your first pair are only sentence fragments. Use 4 not 3.
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past instead of past perfect #3 (permalink) Tue Dec 13, 2011 13:28 pm   past instead of past perfect
 

Thank you Mister Micawber,

I am sorry. I put an extra "and" in those sentences, making them meaningless.

They were supposed to be:

1-Yesterday when we tested the computers one of them malfunctioned. But he tried to sell the computer that malfunctioned.

2-Yesterday when we tested the computers one of them malfunctioned. But he tried to sell the computer that had malfunctioned.
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past instead of past perfect #4 (permalink) Tue Dec 13, 2011 13:30 pm   past instead of past perfect
 

Unlike with 3 and 4, both 1 and 2 are clear.
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past instead of past perfect #5 (permalink) Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:13 am   past instead of past perfect
 

Do both sentences 1 and 2 need commas between "computers" and "one"?
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past instead of past perfect #6 (permalink) Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:44 am   past instead of past perfect
 

Strictly, yes; practically, no.
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