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use of since #1 (permalink) Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:58 am   use of since
 

I have lived in india since 1990.

I have been living in india since 1987.

are both above mentioned sentences correct?
if yes then when or which situation we need to use ?
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use of since #2 (permalink) Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:02 am   use of since
 

Hi,

'India' needs a capital 'I'. Both are grammatically correct. In the second sentence you are emphasising that you are going to continue living in India.

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use of since #3 (permalink) Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:16 pm   use of since
 

thanks Alan
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use of since #4 (permalink) Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:53 am   use of since
 

I got stuck again in use of since/for:

He was eaten nothing since yesterday.
I have not seen her since last week.

So here how they are using 'since' as since shows point to time but here not along with this i thought since and for we can use with any perfect continous tense but here they are not using 'has/have/had +been'

why so?

S-3 she has been here an hour.

in this why we are not using 'for' before time i.e. She has been here for an hour.
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use of since #5 (permalink) Wed Jan 04, 2012 18:25 pm   use of since
 

Nobody has answered your question till now.
Nobody has answered your question since you posted it.
Nobody has answered your question for a long time.

In spite of that, and despite the fact that I am a learner as well, I'll try to explain to you usage of "since" and "for" with perfected tenses.
Of course my explanation should be taken with reserve.

Rachanaagarwal01 wrote:
I have got stuck again in with the use of since/for here:

He was eaten nothing since yesterday. Grammatically wrong sentence. "was eaten" is a passive voice form of the simple past tense of the verb "to eat". "He was eaten" is a fragment of some other sentence and doesn't match the rest of your sentence.

I have not seen her since last week. Correct sentence. "since last week" ~ "from last week to now". It means that I haven't seen her for a last few days. It wouldn't be grammatically correct to say,'I haven't seen her since a last few days.' It would mean nothing actually.

So here how they are using 'since' as since shows point to time but here not along with this i thought since and for we can use with any perfect continous tense but here they are not using 'has/have/had +been' You might have wanted to say that "since" as an adverb of time is usually used with a time reference given in the past in order to emphasise the time point at which the action started and have lasted to the time of speaking.

why so?
On the other hand, when we are not interested in emphasising the exact point in the past at which the action started we use "for" to emphasise the time duration of the action mentioned.

S-3 she has been here an hour. Not correct.

in this why we are not using 'for' before time i.e. She has been here for an hour.This sentence is correct.
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use of since #6 (permalink) Wed Jan 04, 2012 18:53 pm   use of since
 

I'm not going to add much to what E2e4 wrote, but reading a different explanation may help.

Per your initial question, there is no difference. The second option has more emphasis. But either is fine to use for any reason.

Per your "since" and "for" question:

"Since" identifies a point in time.
"For" identifies duration of time.

He has not eaten since yesterday. Means that yesterday was the last time he ate.
I have not seen her since last week. Means that last week was the last time you saw her.
She has been here an hour. This is not a clear statement for a non-native speaker. It should be "She has been here for an hour." Often native speakers drop the "for". Just lazy language. But you understood the sentence without the "for". So be confident in your ability.

There are no exceptions that I can think of to since/for. If the word is left out consider the time clause.
"Last week" is always a point in time. "A week" is always a duration of time.
"Yesterday" is always a point in time. "A day" is always a duration of time.
Only a very poor speaker or an odd dialect would leave out "since." Native speakers would be confused if someone left out "since."
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